Frogs.

Yvsa

Yvsa

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Hi Uncle Bill.
I was wondering why the difference in the frogs on the BAS scabbards and the other Kuhkuris?
The W.W. II is made the same way too isn't it?

I can't see the Nepalese (is that the correct term? I sure do not want to offend.) doing something like that without good reason.


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The military style frog has an adjustable double loop and I believe is the result of mil specs. All others have a stronger single loop which is fixed and non adjustable.

Uncle Bill
 
Speaking of frogs, I was out with the 18" AK this weekend, I was wearing a bunch of other knives at the time and it suddenly came to me that it would be easier to carry if one of the scabbards went the other way for a left handed draw. I blame what I said next on the heat (it went over 20 this weekend), I say to my brother, Pat, who was nearby "I should ask Bill to see me a couple of frogs for left sided carry." Pat looks at me and shakes his head in amazement and comments "Yeah, you could so that. Or you could just do this." Upon which point he takes the khukuris and of course simply rotates the frog around on the scabbard.

I have been using the 18" AK for awhile now, it is definately a big improvement for me over the 15" model. Mainly its because of the longer grip but the extra length does make brush clearing easier and of course the extra weight does increase chopping performace. The edge retention and durability seem to be on par with what I have seen so far in the other HI's (no metal cutting or other hard impacts yet though) and lateral blade strength and tip durability is high (I have done heavy prying and tip work - hard pulls to the side, splitting 4-5" stumps with just the edge of the khukuri lodged in the wood) .

-Cliff
 
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Thanks Uncle Bill.
I can see where it would be useful to have the frog adjustable.

Hey Cliff.
don't you just hate it when that happens?
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I am the younger brother (12 years) and I have been able to do that only a time or two in my life.
I just wonder if you call your little brother the same things my big brother called me at those times.
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The only thing bad about having the frog reversed is having the Kukuri behind the chakma and karda. It also may leave the little tools a better chance of getting snagged out of the scabbard and lost as well as snagging the seam of the scabbard and possibly causing some damage to it.
A person could add a loop to the other side of the frog and that would give some protection to that part of the scabbard that hangs down and is tacked on.
What you would really need is a left handed scabbard and that brings up another question.

Are all the scabbards made right handed? Do the lefties just deal with it being that way? Could a person have a scabbard made left handed if they were willing to wait for it?

Thanks for the info on the 18" AK Cliff.
I am anxiuosly awaiting and know they are on thier way. I am looking forward to playing with it!!

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Yvsa, we do make left handed scabbards on request. Since we are running behind it is now taking longer than I like but they do get here eventually.

Uncle Bill
 
If you ever sit down with a khukurie on your belt,you will know why some of us prefer the BAS.Now that I think of it,Bill sent me a BAS frog for my 18th.cent.Once fitted they are not really transferable.Could one be had for the WW11? That seems to be my presant wearing piece.I`ll have to see about HannuMan.Perhaps for him as well.

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Ghostsix, give us some time and we will get you whatever you want -- even if it is owls with ears that look like they came off Mickey Mouse.

Uncle Bill
 
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Hi Ghostsix.
Is the frog on the BAS flexible enough to give and not bind wnen you sit down?
Is it the result of the double loops or the adustment that Uncle Bill talked about that helps?

I have done some leatherwork in the past and am kicking around an idea to make me a sheath on the order of the CS LTC kukri I have. I like the way it slides out the back when the loop is unsnaped. I don't like snaps though for many reasons. Sometimes you want something to come out without making the slightest of clicks. I don't know what I am going to use to facilitate that,but I will come up with something.

I want to make the sheath so it will hold a utility knife with about a 5" blade and a small stone and also a steel like Gerber had for its Mark II. I think maybe Schrade has one of these on the market as well.
If not I can always harden a piece of O-1 after making it the shape I want.

I don't know if this is feasible or not,but that would provide everything I need into one self contained package. It might not even be a good idea after getting everything together to come up wth a design.
We'll see what happens.

 
Hi Yvsa,the flexability is a function of the double loop design.Bianchi and Safariland have developed good uni directional snaps.Tandy sells them also;a good resource for a leather worker.
The BAS frog uses brass button studs.
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I feel kind of stupid asking this but what is the frog. I believe it is the piece of leather wrapped pretty close to the top of the sheath. But if it is I don't see how I could rotate mine. Four metal tacks or whatever you want to call them go through it into the sheath wood it appears.

Any help is appreciated

thanks and take care
collin
 
Rudy, unless Bill sold you a modified one you can pull the whole thing right off the scabbard and just turn it around and put it back on.

-Cliff
 
Frog is beltloop. I don't think Collin has a modified version. It may fit tight but you can pull it off as Cliff indicated with a little coaxing.

Uncle Bill
 
As usual the forumites come to my rescue. Thanks guys. It probably is just real tight. I will just have to try a little harder.

thanks and take care
collin

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Yvsa,

How about a Eze Lap model M instead of a steel. It can actually sharpen the blade and would be better to have in a long term emergency.

However, steeling does not remove metal. It is great if you know that you will eventually have access to some kind of sharpening equipment. The steeling is better for a knife that is used frequently.

Will

[This message has been edited by Will Kwan (edited 30 June 1999).]
 
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