From the arcane world of knifemaking...

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I made several knives out of sawzall blades but was never happy with the performance of them. Never tried to preserve the original temper though.
 
If you think making knives the simplest way possible is the better way to go, buy a Chinese mass produced $3 knife. I myself would rather go with a well-made knife out of good steel that will hold an edge. I do not think a sawsall blade would make that good of a knife.
I think when Einstein said that, what he meant was that if you can make it BETTER by be going in the opposite direction, THAT is a stroke of genius.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." ~ Albert Einstein

note: “bigger, more complex, and more violent” No mention in there about being better.
 
I didn't know, I inferred it from your post.

Once again, could you please tell us how you figured out it was O1? Could you also tell us why you feel that the sawzall temper is appropriate for a knife? Lastly, could you let us know if your knives are only able to perform in the hands of a skilled user or can be wielded by laymen as well?
 
I saw a guy in South America wearing a garbage bag t-shirt. Didn't really think of him as a courageous genius. Maybe I should broaden my horizons, or narrow them....I'm confused. I should start reading more.
 
Southclaw said:
If you think making knives the simplest way possible is the better way to go, buy a Chinese mass produced $3 knife.
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I think he started with a Chinese mass produced blade, halfway there. I don't think Milwaukee makes anything stateside anymore.
 
his avoidance of posting anything meaningful and answering simple questions leads me to believe the knife did not start its life as a sawzall blade.

it was simply an arcane attempt at becoming the first knife making philosopher.
 
In the picture it looks like the blade has a wider belly then the sawsall blade does. hmm Was if forged? or maby it was streached out in some esoteric way.
 
BMK said:
I don't know anyone who can make a 13" bowie from a SawZall blade:-)
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That's OK, I don't know anyone who would want to.

MORIMOTOM said:
his avoidance of posting anything meaningful and answering simple questions leads me to believe the knife did not start its life as a sawzall blade.

it was simply an arcane attempt at becoming the first knife making philosopher.
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And a dismal failure at that.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
his avoidance of posting anything meaningful and answering simple questions leads me to believe the knife did not start its life as a sawzall blade.

it was simply an arcane attempt at becoming the first knife making philosopher.
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Naw, there is already some cowboy knife-maker who spouts off a lot of BS and has quite a few people believe his own particular brand of BS, I forget his name... :)
 
MORIMOTOM said:
his avoidance of posting anything meaningful and answering simple questions leads me to believe the knife did not start its life as a sawzall blade.

it was simply an arcane attempt at becoming the first knife making philosopher.
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I'm with Mark.....

To the OP, you're going to have to stop talking in circles and quoting Einstein repeatedly if you want to have people take you seriously, and for pete's sake quit using the word "arcane" and thanking everybody for their well thought out comments and questions when you aren't even really responding to them....

You still haven't addressed how you produced this knife from a dang sawzall blade. How about you post up some pics of your shop or some pics of the process you use, or at least talk to the members here about it who are asking. This is a discussion forum. If you have no desire to discuss what you are doing and your original post was simply to generate traffic to your website, than I think it was an ill advised post. I'm still confused:confused:
 
I grew up in the Catskill Mountains of New York, and served as an Officer of Marines and Special Forces team commander in most any environment you can think of. I have backpacked, hunted, fished, orienteered, adventure raced, kayaked, rock climbed and hiked from inside the Arctic Circle to the Bayous of Louisiana and from the White Mountains of New Hampshire to the High Deserts of Joshua Tree and Big Bend. I like going to places and doing things where the outcome is uncertain.

Knives are one of man's oldest tools and they are, in their essence, a simple affair. In the final analysis, it's all about material separation, and everything else is just eye candy. I like the simplicity and inherent strength of fixed blade knives. Folders can do one thing a fixed blade can't: fold. If you really need a knife, there is none better than a full tang fixed blade.

Part of my job as a professional firefighter involves using all sorts of tools in unforgiving situations. A dependable tool, in the right hand, has the capacity to transform a bad situation into a better one.

The knives I make are a by-product of where I have been and what I have done. My knives are different from most knives because I am different from most knifemakers - it's really that simple.

I engineer spartan tools based on my experience in spartan situations. Most of my orders come from people who want a knife that is engineered by someone with my experience and background - as you might imagine, experience and background in grinding steel is not at the top of their list. With the exception of the Baby Chisos I don't regularly fabricate blades. Bush Monkey Knives is a one man operation that makes old skool tools one at a time in Fort Worth, Texas. Every Bush Monkey knife is utilitarian by design. I design, fabricate and/or procure the individual components of the knife: blade, handle material, mechanical fasteners, lanyard tubing, adhesive and modify, shape, fit, finish, assemble and inspect every knife that leaves my shop. I have done my job when there is nothing to take away and elegance remains.


J. Peterman??
 
This guy speaks and posts like a space alien on here, but I wasn't confused last week when I saw this bullshit, and I am not confused now. No mystery to me.

Lets just say I am no stranger to photoshop, or to knifekits.com

That's all I have to say.
 
Who does your heat treat for the Baby models?

I just took the time to read your site. You assemble knife kits and etch your label on them. The baby model is the only one you actually fabricate. You do say that in your about section. My only suggestion would be to learn how to make your own blades, properly. Then you can design blades based on your experience. Your prices are reasonable when compared to the kit cost and the time to assemble.

Rick
 
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BMK said:
I think we all know that what a knife is made of is of little importance compared to the hand that holds it.
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If you truly believe that proper material selection is irrelevant based upon the skill of the user, then you are living in a fantasy world.

No amount of skill trumps basic physics and chemistry.

In reality, skilled individuals actually require properly designed tools of quality construction, as they put greater demands on their equipment than the average layman.
 
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Ok,

I went to bed last night after reading this thread and couldn't shake the feeling I was missing something, or didn't understand what the OP was talking about, or that I wasn't "in" on the joke sort of feeling.

All of you guys (count, johnny, psycho, etc....) have made me feel a lot better. I was wondering why the OP ended up posting this in this forum. It isn't the for sale section and the feeling I got was he was trying to sell something.

I didn't learn a whole bunch from his website in regards to knife making. It almost felt like that guy who has the magical swords with the secret magical quench that is better than anything in the world ever. I can't remember his name but he had a segment on a discovery? channel show.

I would gladly pay more for a properly made knife with KNOWN steel. Not saying you can't make a good looking knife or a functional knife out of a sawzall blade but to then talk it up as the best blade out there because it is simple just doesn't make sense to me. I don't like to put anyone out for making knives and all but I think the OP is looking into this process too deeply.

Nathan W
 
12345678910 said:
Naw, there is already some cowboy knife-maker who spouts off a lot of BS and has quite a few people believe his own particular brand of BS, I forget his name... :)
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The cowboy of whom you speak actually does make pretty nice knives, though, from good steel... not from a catalog. Unlike our new friend here. :rolleyes:

EDIT: hey that was post 1234 for me... do I win a prize? :D
 
james terrio said:
EDIT: hey that was post 1234 for me... do I win a prize? :D
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Not unless you are a different James Terrio then the one that surpassed 1234 a long time ago. :)

I think the sawzall blade knife is just a template after visiting the site.

What I dont get is all the other knives on the site are marked 440C and D2.... wouldnt the making of these have to be done the old arcane way?

I mean someone has to do the arcane work... you cant just skip it.
 
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