Frozen Patties/Pocket knife (warning: a little gross)

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I was trying to pry apart some frozen salmon patties about 2 days ago using my Shallot. I'm sure you know how this ends but I'll tell yo anyway.

Before starting I thought I better keep my hand low so if this knife slips through then I wont stab myself. The patties felt like they had thawed a little and then was refroze because they were really stuck together. I guess during the struggle to get the patties apart my hand slid up just enough that when the knife when through it caught the index finger of my left hand.

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The little red spot that is circled is where the tip came out just a bit. I didn't know I had ran the blade that far into my finger until I started washing the blood off and could see a little blood coming out to that spot. :eek:

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What I've learned:

1. DON'T EVER EVER EVER EVER DO THAT AGAIN.

2. If I'm going to have a knife for self defense, I think I would get a fully SE. Despite how gruesome the stab was, the thin sharp blade of the Shallot left a pretty clean cut considering. A SE would have made a bigger mess for sure.

3. It didn't really hurt, not until about an hour later when my finger started swell. That being said, I think the adrenaline that would be flowing during a confrontation would minimalize the effect of most knife wounds. If I had to use a knife for SD it would be after all other options, including running, failed. The only blade that would be effectual enough to stop an attacker quickly would not be a pocket knife.

Stay sharp and be careful.
 
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Regarding the issue of self-defense, people should look at other avenues of options other than knives.

I view my knives as tools. The mall ninjas and instructors who continue to preach "knife-fighting" can keep their fantasies and stupidity.
 
Few things.

One ouch, but you're right knife wounds aren't all that painful, I damn near cut my finger off when a folder folded hard down on my knuckle into the bone, which is still healing but has never been more than annoyingly sore.

Two watch out for an infection, hands are about the worst place to get infections, gets in all the joints and spreads fast up the arm.

Three I figure if I'm using a knife for self defense I'll do my best to cause much bleeding and breathing damage. The surefire way in my opinion to protect yourself is get the knife to the neck of the aggressor. BUT IN NO WAY DO I CARRY WITH THE INTENT THAT MY KNIFE IS A WEAPON EVEN FOR SELF DEFENSE. If I ever feel the need to defend myself with a weapon I will buy a gun.
 
Frozen patty separation via butter knife. Place dull knife tip vertically in groove of frozen patty. Place hand around knife on top of vertically frozen patty. With the open palm of the other hand smack the handle of the knife downward into the patty thus splitting them. Never place your hands below the tip of the knife (well, you already know that:p). Viola! Split frozen patties!. The MILF did the same with frozen patties years ago with one of my large Italian switchblades. It was the first (and only so far) time she ever put a blade through her finger. She almost fainted when she realized it went all the way through. A good cleaning, some triple anti-bi cream and a band aid healed it up nicely in about a week.
 
Nice one :thumbup:

Thats going to hurt every time you move that finger for a while.
 
It was the salmon exacting revenge.

I'm just kidding, salmon never exact revenge, they only sow doubt.
 
I don't consider proper training with knives to be "fantasy and stupidity". There are many people from all walks of life who train in ways of self-defense, and you are more likely to be confronted with a knife than a gun.
Learning how to protect vital areas if (God forbid) you are attacked with a knife could save your life. Therefore, I take such training very seriously. And knowing how and where to counter-attack could also save your life.
Or the lives of others.
That doesn't make someone a "mall ninja", now does it?:rolleyes:
 
I got one of these for my riding knife (horseback, that is).

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One of the situations that everybody dreads is falling off with your foot through the stirrup and getting dragged (it's often fatal). I figure if that ever happens to me, I want to be able to pull a knife in the most humanly efficient manner possible, and cut the stirrup off as quickly as possible (it's usually just held on by a leather strap a few inches wide).

I'd hate to think what it would do to a person though.
 
SOLEIL said:
Frozen patty separation via butter knife. Place dull knife tip vertically in groove of frozen patty. Place hand around knife on top of vertically frozen patty. With the open palm of the other hand smack the handle of the knife downward into the patty thus splitting them. Never place your hands below the tip of the knife (well, you already know that:p). Viola! Split frozen patties!.
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That was my initial intention, but the patties were in the deep freeze in the garage and I was cooking them on the grill. I thought "I don't have to go in the house, I can just do that right here." Out pops the knife. Oh, the blood, the horror. :p

Eh, you live and you learn.;)
 
When I was at Rothbury Music Festival this summer in Michigan a guy a few campsites down from me did this the first afternoon (before any music even started) although he really mangled his hand and needed thirty some stitches. He had been prying apart beef patties so the ER Doc put him on a couple of antibiotics because there could have been some really nasty bugs in the beef. With the salmon you should be alright and I wouldn't worry too much about infection, but keep an eye on it. The motto that I have always lived by and have slightly changed is "A knife is the most expensive, least effective and most dangerous prybar you will ever own". Perhaps a widgy bar might be better suited for prying apart frozen food? just a thought
 
T. That's a waved Endura 4 Spyderedge flavor. I assume you mean in plain edge, and I believe it does.
 
Not the first injury I've heard of prying frozen meat patties apart with a knife. I'm sure it won't be the last. Anything involving a knife, prying, and a sudden release is a bad idea. Hope you heal fast.
 
About 15 years ago I was splitting frozen beef patties with a butter knife...and slipped, and gashed my thumb. I went to the urgent care, they cleaned it and stitched it up.
It became infected, and a line started traveling up the thumb, the hand, the arm.
The doctor got real interested. I visited him daily for status checks. I think we went through a few antibiotics. Thank God, it went away in a couple of weeks.

A couple of years ago, I was donating blood and noticed a long scar running up the nurse's arm. I asked her what happened. She explained that she had a blood infection, and had to have surgery to have a vein (or artery) removed. "How'd you get that?", I asked.

"Donating blood" was her answer.

Yeah, that made me feel rrealllll good. I still donate regularly, but I pay close attention to the procedure they use! And it made me real aware of the dangers and thankful that my earlier infection had cured.

So, beware of cuts made while handling meats, and make sure the wound always gets cleaned out well, and disinfected. Lesson learned.
 
Make sure its flushed and clean inside, and SUPERGLUE it shut. It will keep irritation down, works better than stitches, a heck of alot cheaper, and leaves little to zero scar.
 
65535 said:
T. That's a waved Endura 4 Spyderedge flavor. I assume you mean in plain edge, and I believe it does.
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Yea I meant PE,:o, I love the blade shape, kinda reminds me of the original AG Russel One Hand Knife, I gotta check out the variations.:D
 
+1 for what J_Curd said!

I keep a few Superglue gel tubes around for when I get cut.
Can't remember how many times I've thoroughly cleaned a cut (even pour rubbing alcohol on 'em sometimes) and then superglue it shut. Works great and heals fast!

Heal quickly, that 'revenge of the salmon' cut looks deep and long-term painful...

-Mike
 
65535 said:
T. That's a waved Endura 4 Spyderedge flavor. I assume you mean in plain edge, and I believe it does.
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I would have LOVED to have bought a serrated waved Endura. I have the plain edge version and I didn't know they were even making the serrated ones.

Now I have another knife I have to buy!
 
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