frustration with sharpmaker, paper cutting vs. shaving

i used to have the same problem. could make my knives shave hair, but papercutting was almost impossible to do. i solved it by using the brown stones a lot longer, and each side til i raised a burr (like 50 strokes per side, then 40, then 30 til i am at 1 each). reprofiled the edges to 30°, then polished them with the white stones. this takes a damn long time if you dont have the diamond stones. finally i gave the blades a slight touch, like 2-3 strokes per side, on the 40° setting, with the white stones. works wonders.
 
There's problems inherent to the Sharpmaker system when using it to rebevel.

First of all, the rods aren't perfectly straight. One day you might use a slightly concave corner to rebevel, the next you might use the slightly convex corner and find that it takes 500 strokes to once again hit the edge.

Secondly, there is slight play in the rods and base. Pushing down hard on the rod will cause it to shift slightly towards the base (increasing the honing angle only when rebevelling with large force).

The third point is that there is also side-to-side (towards/away from the body) movement of the rod, especially when using lighter pressure on the rod such that it doesn't "stick" in the central position. Moving away from this position means that the honing angle has decreased.

These last two points mean that as one approaches the final edge finish, the honing angle becomes relatively smaller. It's rather difficult to remove large amounts of steel with the white rods or low pressure brown rods. The net effect of these factors is that after the initial rebevelling at 30 or 40 degrees (or higher depending on the amount of flex), subsequent attempts to match that angle with white rods or lower pressure will not be successful.

To Spyderco's credit, they suggest establishing the primary bevel at 30 degrees and cutting the secondary bevel at 40 degrees, just like how other forumites have advised in this thread. This would make the secondary bevel much easier to establish and work on. But I'm a difficult knife nut and I don't want a secondary bevel! :p
 
Here's an illustration of what I believe is happening:
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I have ceramics lying about from the last 25 years. I have crock sticks, moon sticks, ceramic butcher's steels, and an early model of the Spyderco triangle sharpening system. NONE of them work for me as well as free hand sharpening on diamond plates from either DMT or easy-lap.

I only use the triangle kit on a spyderco bread knife that I have. I gave away the rest of the serrateds in my collection.

I even have the diamond sleeves, which I use for recurve blades.

Ceramics are a pain in the neck.....they load up too quickly and are a mess to maintain with erasers, scouring powder sandpaper etc.

I use the diamond hones and a damp paper towell to wipe them with. No mess, no fuss, and if you drop one, they don't break.

I may not get as sharp an edge as some, but I can pull a hair from my head and draw it over my edges at a right angle, and it will grab and cut the hair.

To each his own,

Thomas
 
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