FS: CAMILLUS SCOUT / CAMP / SURVIVAL Knife 1946-50 Delrin SHARP!!!

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This is a nice vintage user.... nice full blade and tools. Razor sharp blade... great snaps. Delrin scales, missing shield is all. Anti-USA sentiment after the war? Not sure. $20 shipped CONUS. CHECK/MO ONLY Please
 

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fyi: No knife anywhere in the world had Delrin handles until the late summer of the year 1960.
 
Raymond1000 said:
In the fifties Old Timers looked like they did in the post-Delrin sixties. What scale material did Schrade use back then?
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They mostly used bone and celluloid. Very rarely pear. The only stag known has been posted by Charlie, and that was before the 1946 change in ownership. It was VERY rare. Just before the switch to Delrin they were frantically trying alternatives and there were some materials used which I personally cannot identify. A knowledgeable person has said that they even tried masonite! Some excellent examples of 1950s Schrade bone handles were used to create the molds for the first Delrin open-stock "jigged" Delrin handles. By the way, the op knife shown here is indeed in the age range claimed, and the handles are Rogers bone.
 
tongueriver said:
They mostly used bone and celluloid. Very rarely pear. The only stag known has been posted by Charlie, and that was before the 1946 change in ownership. It was VERY rare. Just before the switch to Delrin they were frantically trying alternatives and there were some materials used which I personally cannot identify. A knowledgeable person has said that they even tried masonite! Some excellent examples of 1950s Schrade bone handles were used to create the molds for the first Delrin open-stock "jigged" Delrin handles. By the way, the op knife shown here is indeed in the age range claimed, and the handles are Rogers bone.
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Even as a kid I assumed the Old Timer scales were some plastic.

I doubt they used cellulose, or we’d know about blades wrecked by outgassing.

Could it have been Rogers Bone?

Could it have been real shinbone?
 
I stand corrected... bone scales. Looked and felt synthetic so I hadn't looked closely at it.
 
Raymond1000 said:
Even as a kid I assumed the Old Timer scales were some plastic.

I doubt they used cellulose, or we’d know about blades wrecked by outgassing.

Could it have been Rogers Bone?

Could it have been real shinbone?
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You are confusing Schrade open-stock knives with Schrade Old Timer knives. There were no Old-Timers in the 1950s. They introduced the 8OT and the 2OT in late 1959 as the very first of the Old Timer line, and they had bone handles. Within weeks or months, they switched to Delrin for both their Old Timers and open stock knives. They continued to use cocobolo and leather washers on some handles, but Delrin was the default for almost everything. Celluloid was gone forever at that point and bone was not used again for several years. When we say bone we are talking about cattle shin bone. When we say Rogers bone we are referring to that distinctive item sold to the cutleries by Rogers Bone Company. Bernard Levine has posted a link to an article about Rogers Bone, and another about Winterbottom bone.
 
tongueriver said:
You are confusing Schrade open-stock knives with Schrade Old Timer knives. There were no Old-Timers in the 1950s. They introduced the 8OT and the 2OT in late 1959 as the very first of the Old Timer line, and they had bone handles. Within weeks or months, they switched to Delrin for both their Old Timers and open stock knives. They continued to use cocobolo and leather washers on some handles, but Delrin was the default for almost everything. Celluloid was gone forever at that point and bone was not used again for several years. When we say bone we are talking about cattle shin bone. When we say Rogers bone we are referring to that distinctive item sold to the cutleries by Rogers Bone Company. Bernard Levine has posted a link to an article about Rogers Bone, and another about Winterbottom bone.
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My first knife was a Schrade Jr. Stockman. I was seven when I bought it. I used it and sharpened it until the blades were toothpicks. Then bought another. By that time the Old Timers were out.

Does anybody have a picture of the mid-50s Schrade Jr. Stockman that resembled the Old Timers?
 
Raymond1000 said:
My first knife was a Schrade Jr. Stockman. I was seven when I bought it. I used it and sharpened it until the blades were toothpicks. Then bought another. By that time the Old Timers were out.

Does anybody have a picture of the mid-50s Schrade Jr. Stockman that resembled the Old Timers?
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The catalogs are all here:
http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Catalogs/index.htm
And descriptions of all the 1950s openstock patterns are here:
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com...fe-reference-guide/schrade-open-stock-knives/
The 2 7/8 inches stockman would be the 808, later to become the 108OT. The 3 5/16 inches stockman would be the 834, later to become the 34OT.
 
Here too late to tell you the handles are bone. You already figured that out. However the dates are not correct. It's a WWII era "Army Engineers and Marine Corps Utility Knife". Check out pg. 34 of the 1946 Camillus catalog, 2nd knife from the top. Only difference is yours does not have a shield. The steel pins and liner are a dead giveaway.

Thought you might like to know. If not, feel free to have a Mod. delete this post.
 
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