Full Convex Full Tang Knives?

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Portholes

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I've been searching the web for days for a full tang full convex ground military/survival knife, preferably between 7 and 9 inches long and capable of chopping, batoning, and plenty of prying and abuse. For a while I was looking at ESEE's but they don't have the right size and none are full convex ground. Aside from that, I love the ESEE's design. I found Bark River a couple days ago and if the Bravo 1 was twice as big I'd be sold. The bravo 2 is too thin for my tastes. The new ratmandu is kinda cool but I don't think it's quite what I'm looking for. I'm hoping to snag something for under $200, but I might be able to stretch that up to $250 if I like it enough. Any suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
 
I can only think of Busse right now but that might be more than you want to spend.

Are you sure BRKT don't have anything to suit?
 
If you want a prybar, get a Ranger RD9 knife and convex the blade edge yourself. Lots of people do that.
 
None of the BRKT blade shapes are quite what I'm looking for. I kinda like the Golok but that is more of a machete, less of a basic survival knife. I read somewhere that BRKT was considering bringing out a new bravo series knife longer than the 1 and thicker than the 2. That is something I would definitely be interested in. I may have to contact them and see if that is still in the works.
 
Convexing the RD9 is something to consider. It looks like the RD9 is full flat ground, is that so? Would I have to reduce the width to convex it?
 
The Thor and Odin are out of my price range, otherwise they would be a consideration. The A2 is a possibility but it is not a full tang knife.
 
Portholes said:
full tang full convex ground military/survival knife, preferably between 7 and 9 inches long and capable of chopping, batoning, and plenty of prying and abuse.
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The Fallkniven A2 knife is built for extremes, the knife is 13" overall with an 8" convex ground blade made of laminate VG-10.
 
I know fallknivens are great quality, my friend just picked one up. VG-10 never struck me as an extreme hard use steel though. I thought the old fashioned carbon steels dominated there.
 
Portholes said:
Convexing the RD9 is something to consider. It looks like the RD9 is full flat ground, is that so? Would I have to reduce the width to convex it?
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I used a belt sander to do mine, just brought the convex up to about 1/2 inch of the edge. I've also done it in the past by hand using stones and emery paper, but that took longer.
 
Portholes said:
I know fallknivens are great quality, my friend just picked one up. VG-10 never struck me as an extreme hard use steel though. I thought the old fashioned carbon steels dominated there.
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You could go non convex and pickup the Scarp Yard Knife Co., Scaper 6 - features a full-height flat ground bevel with a convex edge.

You could also go with one of the KA-BAR USMC knives full blade (7") , short blade (5.25"), these knifes can easily be reporfiled to scandi and cost less than $50.00

Scandi Short KaBar USMC knife
From: virtuovice | September 23, 2010 | 1,183 views
Scanding is very tough, but the result is superb.
http://www.youtube.com/user/virtuovice#p/search/3/r6UuNJ51wi8

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Um, the A2 IS a full tang knife, just not an exposed tang--the tang goes all the way through the handle and comes out the back. 1/4" thick by almost 3/4" wide tang---you're not going to break it. In fact, that's a much more robust chunk of steel than that of many knives that people will erroneously refer to as "full" when they actually mean "exposed.".

Case in point, the Becker BK-7 is an exposed tang (and an excellent knife) but at 3/16" thick it is not as strong as the A2 at the handle/blade juncture, regardless of the fact that you can see metal all way round the handle. Additionally, the balance of a knife whose tang is not as wide (high) as the main blade is will be better suited as a chopping tool, which I'm guessing you're thinking about given the size and grind you're asking about.

In a production knife, I don't think you're going to get closer than the fallkniven if you've decided against BRKT. If you're willing to slightly (and I don't mean that ironically) increase your price limit, I'd check out Scott Gossman's forum in the knife makers section. He does just about everything convex, and can do any blade size, shape or stock thickness you want.
 
Portholes said:
I know fallknivens are great quality, my friend just picked one up. VG-10 never struck me as an extreme hard use steel though. I thought the old fashioned carbon steels dominated there.
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Overall, I'd tend to agree, but Fallkniven actually does a good job of tailoring blade and edge geometries to suit the likely applications of their knives, and if you don't regrind it and thin it down too much it works. I'd prefer a line of their knives in L6 but it isn't going to happen.
 
BRKT bravo 2 is not exactly thin, how much thicker do you really need??? If your speaking of edge thickness then I understand, its a thinner convex but it cuts like a sword.

VG-10 is good stuff, do a little research its a interesting steel.

Another option would be to have a custom made.
 
I THINK he meant blade width versus blade thickness--since he's said the Fallknivens would be possibilities and they're about exactly 0.09" thicker stock. I could be wrong, though...
 
The only other knife that I can think might fit the bill would be the Browning Crowell/Barker Competition.

I believe it's convex but I'm not sure what steel it's made from.
 
You can try to find an older Cold Steel Trailmaster. The Carbon V, San Mai, and AUS-8 blades were all convex ground.
 
Yesterday I found a year old forum where the owner of BRKT openly stated the bravo 2 was more of a fighter than a chopper. http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52703
I've never handled a brkt myself but the fact that the bravo 2 is thinner than the bravo 1 gives me the impression it is not as much of a utility knife. I keep my Fairbairn-Sykes as a fighter so the primary objective of any other knife I buy should be survival/bushcraft. I do want it to be an adequate fighter as well just in case...

Schpankme- that video was pretty amazing. I've seen lots of videos of people abusing knives but none where they hammered a knife through another piece of metal. I may have to bite the bullet and get an a2.

Thanks for all the suggestions-
Joe
 
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