Fullrs: Not many knives with fullers out there.

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VorpelSword

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The iconic Kay-Bar looks as butch as it does in part due to it's large fullers.

Yet, there are few serious "combat" knives with fullers out there.

Anyone have thoughts on this.
 
The idea that a fuller is a "blood groove" is 80's movie nonsense. Cost is increased from machining and finishing a fuller groove and it adds no real appreciable benefit, maybe some weight savings. The old argument that it was like an I beam and increased the blades strength is also false, or at least not significantly measurable in a knife. On swords the fuller was done to save weight.

I do agree they look cool. I have done a few smaller blades with fullers, just because. Ben Tendick ( BenR.T. BenR.T. ) is the master of the fuller in my opinion.
 
Lots of fullers out there. Just have a look at Buck fixed blades. I have them from 4.5 up to 10" blades.

Just don't know what a "serious combat knife" is, so I don't know what examples to list.

Be aware that they are harder to clean. :)

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As far as I understand, Lorien + Nathan used a fuller in the above less for overall weight reduction, more for better balance.
 
I like Fullers!

They have a value beside weight reduction. They also provide a grip to help cut through bigger tasks.

Maybe your knife is sharp enough to handle the job one handed. Maybe, you'd rather be safe rather than sorry. It's a grip!

Your knife usage may be different. I like to be safe as my knives are sharp.
 
Ok, the Kay Bar is generally considered to be a 'combat utility knife". I find it to be pretty light for its size. The Air Force Pilot's Survival knife has a fuller, but I find it to be heavy for its size ("dense" might be a better word). None of the Randall "combat" knives have a fuller, nor do the CRK "military" blades. While so-called 'Bowe" blades very widely in form, a fuller is not chrematistic for a Bowe. . . .and they were defiantly considered to be intended for combat.

No point or agenda . . .just coffee fueled rambling.
 
VorpelSword said:
Ok, the Kay Bar is generally considered to be a 'combat utility knife". I find it to be pretty light for its size. The Air Force Pilot's Survival knife has a fuller, but I find it to be heavy for its size ("dense" might be a better word). None of the Randall "combat" knives have a fuller, nor do the CRK "military" blades. While so-called 'Bowe" blades very widely in form, a fuller is not chrematistic for a Bowe. . . .and they were defiantly considered to be intended for combat.

No point or agenda . . .just coffee fueled rambling.
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Alright, I admit it, I know what you are talking about :). This one is in the mail to me as we speak. 16.2" OAL, 26.7oz (!).

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"Drawing inspiration from the historic Marine Raider bowies of World War II, (The V44X) pays tribute to the iconic V44, which saw significant action in the South Pacific jungles."
 
On something short-bladed like a knife, a fuller is mostly for aesthetics. I'm not saying it doesn't affect balance or weight at all, but it's probably negligible and often unnoticeable.

Most of the knives they're on it was done because "it looks cool".
 
VorpelSword said:
Ok, the Kay Bar is generally considered to be a 'combat utility knife". I find it to be pretty light for its size. The Air Force Pilot's Survival knife has a fuller, but I find it to be heavy for its size ("dense" might be a better word). None of the Randall "combat" knives have a fuller, nor do the CRK "military" blades. While so-called 'Bowe" blades very widely in form, a fuller is not chrematistic for a Bowe. . . .and they were defiantly considered to be intended for combat.

No point or agenda . . .just coffee fueled rambling.
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Anyone going into 'combat' should have more than one knife. A variety of knives would be best.

'One can never have enough knives!' Said everyone on Bladeforums.
 
I see a lot of them out there. They do add to the cost since you're machining the hardest material on the knife, and they can be annoying to clean depending on how they're shaped. Also, they make more sense when you have a large flat portion of the blade over a saber grind, whereas many knives are flat ground now. So I can see why some companies avoid them.

They do reduce the weight noticeably since you're removing material from the thickest part, and the strength isn't reduced much due to the I-beam profile. Also, a lot of folders now have fullers as an opening method. Some knives have it as the only opening method (eg Medford Praetorian, Twosun Vandal, Rike Anax). They're shaped well for reverse flicking and don't get in the way of sharpening.
 
J. Doyle said:
On something short-bladed like a knife, a fuller is mostly for aesthetics. I'm not saying it doesn't affect balance or weight at all, but it's probably negligible and often unnoticeable.

Most of the knives they're on it was done because "it looks cool".
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I agree with all of this.....

If a person likes them, great.....we were all 10 years old once.... Who doesn't want to be a Barbarian or mall Ninja? Haha....no shame!
 
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