Funny story at the knife counter

You don't want an employee, you seem to want row after row of shelves where you grab what you want and go.

I absolutely do. Yes please! One of the coolest things they started doing at the grocery store is self checkout. I don't have to waste my time anymore interacting with an employee who's board and wants to waste mine and everyone else's time chit chatting about nothing. I'm also faster than they are at their own job on average. I also like doing business via email. I can send a 1 minute email or spend 15 minutes on the phone. If only my state allowed people to pump their own gas then I would be a very happy man. :)
 
I think a knowledgeable employee in a knife store (or any sporting goods store) should offer advice. But once the advice is offered and not accepted, I feel he has done his part.

The old saying that I don't have a dog in this hunt applies.

Shotgun, do you remember the first time you ever pumped or filled a tank of gas? I remember being worried if I got a gas station job of looking like an idiot not knowing where the fuel port was. I also remember filling my first tank as a young adult and feeling a bit odd about it. I'm an old pro now, :D and filled my tank up today without a moment's hesitation at $2.31/gal. Not a big fan of the self checkouts at stores, but I use them if I am making a small purchase.
 
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I found the story funny enough. :)
Was the clerk out of line?
Perhaps, but the real thing I'd take away from it would be to avoid buying their knives, seeing as they've been spine-whacked while still selling as new.
 
I don't know why everyone is getting infuriated at this story without knowing all of the facts. Some things that jumped out at me right off the bat are:

-We don't know if the father had in fact tried to enlist the employees help in talking the child out of the knife.

- We could assume that the father brought this child in to buy his first knife and this father is not like all of you and knows every knife inside and out. Maybe the father doesn't know what a balisong is but the kid insisted on buying it and the salesperson is educating them.

If someone tries to sell me on something different than what I was planning on buying, I am fine with that. I listen and sometimes they bring up a pretty good point about something I had not thought of. When I first got into firearms the guy at my local shop would steer me into a different direction than I was going to go because he had a lot more knowledge than me at that time. Looking back I am happy that he did so. The same salesman is who I saw when I decided to go with my GF to purchase her first firearm for concealed carry. We had decided what we were going to purchase and when we got there there were some concerns he brought up with the firearm that had not even made it to the internet yet about some of its malfunctions and problems being encountered. We left with another firearm. So was he out of line to talk me out of what I was there to purchase? The firearm was in the case! Should he just have sold the firearm to me because I said that is what I wanted? I don't believe so, I am glad he was there to assist and talk to me about the purchase I was there to make. It is because of my first interaction with him that I have purchased every single firearm from him.

We also do not know if the father heard his remark about stitches. Now I am going to say that his comment was out of line but so many of y'all are stating I would do this and do that! Wow! Y'all wanna get so confrontational so quick with this salesperson in this short story, and we don't know and most likely the OP doesn't know the whole story. He was just relating what he had witnessed.

Moral of the story for me is that I am glad I do not buy my "new" knives there that have been spine whacked. You are going to get rude CS people almost any place you go. To me I would have just let it go and gone elsewhere for future purposes. I will choose my battles and to me such a snarky comment does not warrant a huge confrontation. This guy is probably a minimum wage employee, so if I chose to create a scene, what will I have accomplished? Maybe feel better about myself that I won a battle against this guy using management. What for?
 
I don't know why everyone is getting infuriated at this story without knowing all of the facts. Some things that jumped out at me right off the bat are:

-We don't know if the father had in fact tried to enlist the employees help in talking the child out of the knife.

- We could assume that the father brought this child in to buy his first knife and this father is not like all of you and knows every knife inside and out. Maybe the father doesn't know what a balisong is but the kid insisted on buying it and the salesperson is educating them.

If someone tries to sell me on something different than what I was planning on buying, I am fine with that. I listen and sometimes they bring up a pretty good point about something I had not thought of. When I first got into firearms the guy at my local shop would steer me into a different direction than I was going to go because he had a lot more knowledge than me at that time. Looking back I am happy that he did so. The same salesman is who I saw when I decided to go with my GF to purchase her first firearm for concealed carry. We had decided what we were going to purchase and when we got there there were some concerns he brought up with the firearm that had not even made it to the internet yet about some of its malfunctions and problems being encountered. We left with another firearm. So was he out of line to talk me out of what I was there to purchase? The firearm was in the case! Should he just have sold the firearm to me because I said that is what I wanted? I don't believe so, I am glad he was there to assist and talk to me about the purchase I was there to make. It is because of my first interaction with him that I have purchased every single firearm from him.

We also do not know if the father heard his remark about stitches. Now I am going to say that his comment was out of line but so many of y'all are stating I would do this and do that! Wow! Y'all wanna get so confrontational so quick with this salesperson in this short story, and we don't know and most likely the OP doesn't know the whole story. He was just relating what he had witnessed.

Moral of the story for me is that I am glad I do not buy my "new" knives there that have been spine whacked. You are going to get rude CS people almost any place you go. To me I would have just let it go and gone elsewhere for future purposes. I will choose my battles and to me such a snarky comment does not warrant a huge confrontation. This guy is probably a minimum wage employee, so if I chose to create a scene, what will I have accomplished? Maybe feel better about myself that I won a battle against this guy using management. What for?
I don't see anyone getting infuriated, this is a discussion forum, and we are discussing the story provided.

It's true that we don't know every last factual detail involved in the story. But if we limit our discussions to only those topics where people can provide sworn affidavits, video depositions, and verified witness statements regarding what occurred and what everyone was thinking, there isn't going to be much discussion going on here.

You had a good experience at a gun shop with a knowledgeable employee, that's great. If you require help to determine what you should buy then it's great that there was a more knowledgeable person available to advise you. But there's a big difference between a knowledgeable and helpful person offering their advice, and a smart-ass who thinks he knows better than everyone else trying to tell people what they should buy, and then making rude comments when their suggestions are not followed.

Visit enough gun shops, and sooner or later you will meet "experts" who don't know nearly as much as they think they do. But that certainly won't stop them from telling you what you should buy, and why you're an idiot for wanting something else, all while they spin and slam the cylinder closed on a revolver, or let the slide slam shut on a semi-auto.

As far as what will be accomplished by complaining about a rude employee, if more people were willing to speak up when they encounter a rude employee, or bad customer service, perhaps there would be fewer rude employees and better customer service. And no matter what an employee is paid, that doesn't excuse rude behavior. I once made minimum wage, and if I was rude to customers, I would have been fired, and rightly so. I currently own and run my own business, and if one of my employees were rude to a customer, I would very much want that customer to tell me so that I could deal with it, because that employee's behavior reflects on me and might cost me future business.

Some people want/need advice on what they should buy, and some people don't. Some people choose to ignore rude employees, and some people choose to complain. Different strokes.
 
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All kids gotta learn. Truthfully. You can talk till you're blue in the face but they'll never learn until they get bit. Pray to God it isn't a serious bite but believe me, the kid will learn. You have to let them learn on their own. Who knows - maybe the kid has already learned on a trainer, we don't know. I think we're so protective of the kids trying to protect them from dangers of life we never let them experience and learn on their own.

Like swing sets when we all were growing up. Parents always tell kids not to swing crooked. We keep doing it because it's fun,...until one day you smack head first into the pipe support leg. I guarantee you from that day forward you,( or at least I did) riode that swing straight! Same thing when they tell you not to swing so high or you'll fall out. Haha. But what does society do? Protect the kids nowadays and remove the whole damned swing sets from parks. Can't find a park in the entire state with a swing set now. Sad.
 
Kids (and adults for that matter) got to learn. It is one of the reasons I have little hesitation recommending a Vic SAK for a kid's first knife. Lock or no lock? Sure, they will probably cut themselves and it likely will happen regardless of whether a lock is present. Things that are sharp cut and if you aren't paying attention or cutting something recklessly, then you might just get cut. But it is no reason to take the knives away (or the swing set).

As far as the store employee goes, well, he probably over stepped his boundaries with the remark at the end about the stitches even though it may likely be true. People gotta learn. Sales people have to learn too.
 
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This story actually annoys me. Its a classic example of an employee pushing his own likes and wants onto others who clearly know what they are looking for and want to buy it. Kid comes in with his father and want a balisong and its ok with the dad then try to sell him the best one you can. I guess its just because I have been in the situation a million times when I know exactly what I want and why I want it yet the salesperson just cant help but try to "teach" me something. Even if it IS a mistake its my mistake to bear and once I say Im not interested in whatever he wants me to buy then that should be the end of the discussion. Not to mention the guy was completely misinformed on the knife he disliked so much. Meh, what are you gonna do?
 
I agree. And for what it's worth there are people out there who don't give a hoot about flipping a bali but like them as a pocket knife. Like me. I'd love to have a bali but they're illegal to carry here. And because I'm not a flipper, there's no other reason for me to own one. So I don't.:(

Shotgun, you are in NW Oregon? Where? I thought Oregon was Bali-Friendly.

Kids gotta learn. My son has two balisongs and is learning to flip. We are in Washington, so he can't carry them, but he's enjoying the process. And I agree with the sentiment that this kid already has 30 youtube vids lined up and ready to go. Kids have lots more resources than we did for bali flipping.
 
Well, I just cut the crap out of a finger with a simple Barlow knife a couple days ago. Was cleaning and prepping it for my Daughter that is going on a girls camp out this week. I got careless when handling it while also juggling the compressor hose I was using to dry it out prior to lube. Accidents can happen....with any blade.

But I agree with others that kids need to learn. You teach the best you know how, lay out all of the pro's/con's, then let THEM make the decision. I remember wanting things as a kid because it seemed cool, or something friends already had. I survived and learned many lessons along the way. It's not like the Dad was letting the kid pick out his first stick of dynamite. ;)

My youngest is only 13yo, and already has around 50 knives. In the short time he's been collecting, I've already seen changes in what he likes and thinks is "cool". But in retrospect, the one style that he's never asked for or purchased with his own money is a butterfly. Hmmm.
 
My youngest is only 13yo, and already has around 50 knives. In the short time he's been collecting, I've already seen changes in what he likes and thinks is "cool". But in retrospect, the one style that he's never asked for or purchased with his own money is a butterfly. Hmmm.

Sounds like you are doing something right!
 
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