g-10 Endura vs manix 2?

What will be your primary use for the kinfe? What type of environment will you be in? Woods? Office? By the water? etc....
 
I dont have the M2 but I can say the G-10 Endura is a great knife. Very solid and the FFG cuts like a beast. The G-10 gives good traction and the ergos fit me perfectly.
 
krazichinaman said:
What will be your primary use for the kinfe? What type of environment will you be in? Woods? Office? By the water? etc....
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I live in the SF Bay Area and I do a lot of hiking and exploring. I need an ergonomic handle and a reliable blade. I will also be carrying this for defense purposes.
 
Kim Lau said:
I dont have the M2 but I can say the G-10 Endura is a great knife. Very solid and the FFG cuts like a beast. The G-10 gives good traction and the ergos fit me perfectly.
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Good to know! I was leaning towards the endura too.
 
Buy both and sell the one you like less. I bet you'll keep both.:D:thumbup:
 
For defense purposes the Endura wins. But only if you know how to use a blade for defense purposes. Just because you have a piano in the living room does not make you a concert pianist.

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I don't say this to be a wise guy. :)
 
For defensive purposes I say neither and grab something purpose built for that (P'Kal) and then get some training.

I prefer the Manix 2 to the G-10 Endura.
 
Depends on your priorities. The Endura has a thinner, has a slightly longer blade, is considerably lighter, and allows 4 choices for clip mounting. Between the full flat grind and the .5mm less thickness, it should also be the the better slicer. The Manix 2 is more robust, has an excellent 50/50 choil which increases versatility, and less expensive. If SD is a factor, its more acute point would be a plus for it.

I'm not into SD with knives myself, so my opinion on this may be worth jack squat, but from everything I've read, there are both pros and cons to "dedicated" SD knives such as the P'kal. It's something extra to carry, which increases the risk it will be forgotten at home, and one's motives for carrying a purpose built weapon will be questioned if one ever has to use it. Not everyone has the good fortune to be the winner in a knife fight with a three time loser who just raped the police chief's daughter. Sometimes, your living arrangements for the next decade or so can depend on "who started it". I know with my luck, Id have been attacked by the mayor's honor student son who'd just gone schitzo for the first time. Training makes sense, but you can train with any knife. Heck, they even make an Endura Trainer. Training with one you carry every day and use every day has some advantages.

Paul
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I have them both and like them both. The M2 is more robust. The Endura is slimmer and easier to carry....either is a good choice. Maybe you can handle them before you buy?

Jordan
 
jnich67 said:
I have them both and like them both. The M2 is more robust. The Endura is slimmer and easier to carry....either is a good choice. Maybe you can handle them before you buy?

Jordan
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+1, good way of avoiding regrets or having to flip a knife.
 
The Manix2 has a more robust lock and a more "SD" oriented blade. Grip wise it's hands-down the winner but you give up a little blade length for those ergos.

The Endura is a lighter carry knife and probably better at most office/food prep tasks.

I would hold both and see which you like more. At the least hold a FRN Endura and see if the shop has a M2 then imagine some green G10 and an extra 1-1.5 ounces.

I completely disagree with the P'kal comment. If you happen to train in that particular grip it has benefit but you're in a very small group of knife fighting trainees (good luck finding anything but youtube videos for training). I like the slight recurve/hawkbill shape, lock, and blade steel it offers but for all grips besides it's "ice pick grip" it's a weird knife and the intent of it screams "I bought this to kill people" if you ever find yourself in court.

The P'Kal was designed as many Spyderco knives are: by demand/interest of a small interesting (albeit eccentric) group of followers. It was an interesting project (as is the Yojimbo/Ronin, Warrior, Chinook, etc) but was never designed for the mass public as a defense tool.

At least in the case of the Yojimbo/Ronin it was designed to cut deep and long with a conventional grip. You don't need to be Mr. Knife Fighting Ninja...geometry kicks ass for you.
 
hmmmm...I'm really liking the locking mechanism of the Manix, and in terms of ergonomics, I'm looking for something that will feel as good as the Caly 3 in my hands.
 
If you buy a knife for self defense (a poor tool for this job) don't worry about how scary it looks. If you know how to use it and you know the rules of engagement and the rules of DISENGAGEMENT, avoid trouble etc you should be OK.

One of the MANY lessons learned in the process in defending yourself with a firearm and obtaining a CCW (permit to carry) is “never go anywhere with a gun that you would not go without one.”

It is a long learning curve that requires absolute competence with the firearm and ever changing laws that regulate justification. In addition IMO mindset is key. Avoid trouble and ALWAYS be a Gentlemen, even when those around you are not.

C1
 
Condition 1 said:
If you buy a knife for self defense (a poor tool for this job) don't worry about how scary it looks. If you know how to use it and you know the rules of engagement and the rules of DISENGAGEMENT, avoid trouble etc you should be OK.

One of the MANY lessons learned in the process in defending yourself with a firearm and obtaining a CCW (permit to carry) is “never go anywhere with a gun that you would not go without one.”

It is a long learning curve that requires absolute competence with the firearm and ever changing laws that regulate justification. In addition IMO mindset is key. Avoid trouble and ALWAYS be a Gentlemen, even when those around you are not.

C1
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+1

I hope to NEVER use this for self defense if possible. It is probably 95% task and 5% SD.
 
frgtn340 said:
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I hope to NEVER use this for self defense if possible. It is probably 95% task and 5% SD.
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Probably more like 99.9999999% utility ;).

Anyway, I personally think if you DON'T have an Endura yet, go get the G-10 one as it is a superb piece of work (check legal blade limits in your state and city).

The Manix 2 is a fantastic choice as well - my S90V one should be coming soon :D. Definitely comes from the large handle/smaller blade philosophy like the Para-Military or Military, but the jimping makes it very grippy comparatively.
 
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