G10 vs Black Canvas Micarta

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  1. deadzonepatrol

    deadzonepatrol

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    Apr 11, 2019
    Greetings, Busse fans! I am considering ordering an ultra light Twin Gemini and I want a solid black color for the handle. I know the G10 comes in solid black, but what about the black canvas? Is the black canvas micarta that Busse uses solid black? I'm going to do the competition finish so I want the black to contrast with the blade. The reason I ask is that with some other brands, like TOPS knives, their "black canvas micarta" is not actually black, it's kind of dark gray. But I don't want dark gray, I want black.

    I fear I am slowly turning into a Busse fanatic. I have accumulated four Busse knives so far, including a Forsaken Gemini and a JackHammer 10 recently.

    Thanks to everyone in advance. Enjoy your Labor Day weekend!
     
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  2. Dangerneck

    Dangerneck Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 13, 2012
    Sounds like what you really want is black paper micarta for that solid, shiny black look... I don't believe Busse offers it. All my Busse black canvas handles are slightly grayish. You probably want to go with solid G-10 for contrast. I prefer paper and canvas micarta cause they're "grippier", but no one can argue with G-10 performance.
     
  3. JACKMANDU

    JACKMANDU Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 10, 2019
    I have a TGULB in dc / Black g10. I will post a pic shortly. I would go with g10. Even the darkest Black micarta will not be as solid black as g10. I will send a comparison of black g/10 and micarta on a couple of TGLB.
     
  4. resinguy

    resinguy

    Feb 19, 2006
    Get the micarta for the good grip, and then dye it solid black.
     
  5. AntDog

    AntDog Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 3, 2001
    “Black” canvas micarta isn’t ever truly BLACK because of the canvas fibers. It’s more grey, brown, or even greenish than black.

    if you want truly inky black go with black G10 or paper micarta.
     
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  6. budthachud

    budthachud Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 30, 2008
    Black G10
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    Black Micarta
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  7. JACKMANDU

    JACKMANDU Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 10, 2019
    The middle is micarta, other 2 g/10.
    IMO, with the awesome machining on these handles. The G-10 has excellent grip. 74C70ABE-BB73-4E6C-9C67-3F8E0981036D.jpeg 0E5F0427-9C30-44F4-AC00-D30A9A3735F9.jpeg E2F812E8-19F9-4BD0-B4B5-CE33BF8A7379.jpeg
     
  8. deadzonepatrol

    deadzonepatrol

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    Apr 11, 2019
    Wow, fast responses... bladeforums is terrific. Thank you, everyone! I will have to go with the G10.
     
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  9. deadzonepatrol

    deadzonepatrol

    115
    Apr 11, 2019
    Indeed, black "paper" micarta must be what I was really looking for. But you're right, Busse doesn't offer it, so I'll have to get G10. Thanks!
     
  10. Chevelleface

    Chevelleface Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

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    Aug 7, 2012
    Normally the micarta is slightly grey on my knives from busse. But this last batch on my mega rmd was very dark! Not sure if they changed their supplier or formula. But it’s def darker than my rodent solution was.
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  11. grizzle

    grizzle Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 8, 2016
    I think it might be worth mentioning that the black canvas will darken with age and use.

    Also, might want to check out the Busse sale thread. I just saw one with black g10/ comp finish configuration up for grabs. Chance to save a little and get it much faster. Good luck with the purchase! :thumbsup:
     
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  12. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jul 11, 2012
    Black linen Micarta is darn black, too, and both more interesting and stronger than paper, IMHO. That said, much like paper, it has not been seen here in ages.
    I would go with the G-10 unless you prefer the grip of Micarta, which as stated can be died dark black.
    Also, a good occasional soak in a high quality, thin mineral oil (Singer sewing machine oil is the best methinks) makes the canvas Micarta a pretty good, dark black.
     
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  13. OnceBitten

    OnceBitten Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 11, 2011
    Black Paper Micarta was the least durable of handle materials offered by Busse (non-CS offerings) and G10, by comparison, was the most durable. Canvas Micarta's appeal is that it gets a little "sticky" when wet.
     
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  14. grizzle

    grizzle Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 8, 2016
    this is a good tip, you just wash the oil off with dishsoap after or?
     
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  15. AntDog

    AntDog Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 3, 2001
    No. If you wash it off it goes back to spankin’ new. That includes any oil your hands might put on it.

    Micarta does indeed darken with age, but it takes a pretty damn long time. If you darken it with oil it goes right back to new with a quick scrub.

    Try it for yourself. Soak a handle down with oil and let it sit as long as you want. Then wash it with dawn dish soap.
     
  16. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    L to R: black paper, g10, tan canvas

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    black paper:
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  17. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jul 11, 2012
    Like the AntDog said.
     
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  18. deadzonepatrol

    deadzonepatrol

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    Apr 11, 2019
    I did order the black G10 handle. Wanted that nice contrast with the competition finish blade steel. A bit pricier than the standard handle, but I felt like splurging.

    Beautiful photos here guys, and thanks again for the advice!
     
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  19. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Looking forward to photos when you get it.
    I have the TGULB in DC with black canvas. It makes a nice contrast for that finish. But it isn't dark black. It ALMOST looks slightly bluish in certain light, at a glance.
    For pure black looks, though, g10 is the best compromise between blackness and durability. I'm surprised someone said g10 was the most durable. It has seemed to me that micarta resists damage from inadvertent impacts to it better than g10.
    Canvas (or linen) micarta is my favorite. It used to be g10. But then I used a few knives it hard work, and quickly decided micarta was the only grip material for me, except in folders. And if hunting/gutting/skinning.... I wouldn't dream of trying to use g10. You CAN use it.... but you'll work harder to not slip and cut yourself. At least IME.
     
  20. vkp78

    vkp78 Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 6, 2014
    That EU17 magnum..:thumbsup::eek:
     
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