Ganzo is at it again

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^ it's that mentality that keeps these companies in business and it's why they rip-off designs.

personally, i have zero interest in buying any knife from a company that doesn't design and R&D. if you want an inexpensive knife, there are plenty available from good, reputable, honest companies. if you want some recommendations, i can give you some.

No thanks. I own a ton of Kershaws and Spydercos and plan to own more (some of which are, of course, made in China and Taiwan). But unless a company (located anywhere) is actually counterfeiting (i.e., representing their cheap knives as produced by another company) or trying to deceive me about a product, it's up to Benchmade (or whoever) to enforce whatever trademark, copyright or patent rights they have or think they have. I'm sure there are lots of reasons not to do so, even if they think their rights are being trodden upon. But that's Benchmade's economic decision to make.

My view is that there's nothing immoral about copying a design that doesn't have legal protections. That's why so many things look like so many other things. You'll find suits that look almost exactly like Armani-designed and produced suits but cost hundreds and hundreds less. Laptops mimic more expensive laptops. There's no dishonor in honest imitation nor in trying to ride the shirttails of economically successful designs.

And my view on the legal protections is that patent is not at issue (though I don't know how the Ganzo version of the Axis lock works), trademark is not at issue (the mark is "AXIS" (all caps) and not the ordinary English word "Axis") and copyright is not at issue (these are all mass-produced knives and not artistic or sculptural works, unlike a custom-designed knife).

But you are free to make your purchasing choices based on whatever criteria you wish. As am I.
 
ahh, you got the email too.:)

the sad part here is these are not fleamarket complete junk like some think. if they made their own designs and sold them at those prices, it would be called good old fashioned competition. wish they'd make a chinese traditional styled knife, in a folder. that would interest me more than this benchmade copy...of course that benchmade, the real deal, doesn't appeal to me either, but that's not the issue.
 
Obviously there is no legal recourse for these situations due to the lack of international intellectual property enforcement, the only action I can take as a concerned customer and as a proponent of property rights is to spread awareness so that eve people that are going to go buy the ganzo version will at least be aware of the fact that the credit for the design belongs to benchmade and mr osbourne, and if they like the design enough, they can support benchmade by purchasing the original

Its understandable to do that however all your doing is throwing a knife out there from the chinese companies and saying how bad it is. Had you stated that the knife was a rip off of BM and Mr. Osbournes designs and then further elaborated to show the difference between the two to help people like FlaMtnBkr I wouldve stayed quiet. There is also no markings showing that it is stamped BM, and even comes with a Ganzo box so yes its an imitation but not fraudulent to the nth degree. nit picking I suppose but thats how I am
 
though I don't know how the Ganzo version of the Axis lock works

To be honest they are a little "gritty", BM does a much better job of it as they finish off the channels inside that the bar rides in, the steel liners on the ones I have still have the leftover marks from what looks like a plasma cutter
 
To be honest they are a little "gritty", BM does a much better job of it as they finish off the channels inside that the bar rides in, the steel liners on the ones I have still have the leftover marks from what looks like a plasma cutter

I agree with you 100% on the grittiness -- never up to Benchmade standards on the Chinese-brand knives I own. But just to clarify, I meant I don't know if Ganzo or the others are actually violating Benchmade's patent on the AXIS lock mechanism. They may be doing so, or their version might be a variation that avoids patent violation.
 
I agree with you 100% on the grittiness -- never up to Benchmade standards on the Chinese-brand knives I own. But just to clarify, I meant I don't know if Ganzo or the others are actually violating Benchmade's patent on the AXIS lock mechanism. They may be doing so, or their version might be a variation that avoids patent violation.

Ah gotcha
 
Closing rather than infracting everyone who ignores rules.

One of these days the infractions will happen though.
 
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