Gas Outages

[Mark Williams]

They are starting around here today. Is this just panic hoarding ya think ? Or is the pipeline to blame

 

[Matt Shade]

Call me paranoid, but I think there is only a "shortage" when people can be convinced that there is one. Just look how perfectly the gas prices follow the projections put out by the news/media. They can't predict the stock market, grain or livestock market,or any other commodity worth a damn. But somehow they know the oil market and the exact rise in gas prices to come
Then when something like this hurricane comes, its a price war. Only its a price war to see how high they can get away with. Prices didn't just go up all at once, they walked up in 20 cent increments. This guy goes to $2.98, the guy down the road goes to $3.19. Then he goes on up to $3.50

As far as outages. I haven't seen any around here, just high prices. They'll gladly find gas to sell at these prices.

 

[Darren Ellis]

They are starting around here today. Is this just panic hoarding ya think ? Or is the pipeline to blame

Probably a little of both, I'd guess. However, oil is a finite natural resource and demand is continuing to grow in the U.S. as well as with the industrialization of other countries (China, India, etc.). It'll be interesting to see what happens in 5 to 10 years as we start down the back side of the supply curve...with supply decreasing by 3% per year and demand steadily increasing... better get used to riding your bicycle to work...



-Darren

 

[jhiggins]

Time to saddle up the burros, amigos!

 

[ddavelarsen]

If you really want to get scared, google "peak oil production". This is just a blip; the real thing hits in a couple of years.

 

[ysforge]

Last night I saw prices varried between $2.59 and $3.49 here, all in a one mile stretch, and every station was full!

Today everybody was "out" of gas, till the prices went up again, then magically, the gas re-appeared

Load of crap.

On the other hand, ship anything that needs shipped quick before those prices go up to match!

Tony

 

[J.Wade]

You guys are still paying less than I am, $4.20 /gallon + exchange is about the norm around here. I haven't seen any outages but then again who can afford to buy it.

cya
jimi

 

[Raymond Richard]

Bad thing about these out ragious prices for gas is everything else will follow suit. I bought heating oil Tuesday. 405 gallons for $975.00. When I first bought this place I could fill my 750 gallon tank for about 80c a gallon. Wood stoves are looking better all the time...

 

[Matt Shade]

Time to saddle up the burros, amigos!

My drive to work is only 6 miles right now. If it weren't for the damn traffic the whole way, your damn right I'd be riding my horse!

I need my truck, and can't afford to have another vehicle that gets better mileage. Figure I'm using about a gallon a day with the stop and go traffic right now. Gonna really suck ass when I start back to school and start driving 40 miles a day

 

[jhiggins]

Something has got to give. Change in the transportation industry is inevitable. Yes, there are hybrid cars available, but again the effort is too little too late. New technologies must be researched. Our dependance on oil has every industrialized country as addicted as a heroin addict. The saddest part out of all this is I see no world consortium forming to discuss this issue. Maybe going tribal is the way to go?

How many of us can go back to the old ways? How many of us can survive with just a gun and and good knife and our wits alone? Can we provide for our families then? Can we fend off others who can't and have taken to killing and looting to survive?

Sad to think about, but the oil crisis may just be the way we will return to the stone age if alternatives aren't developed - and fast.

 

[Mark Williams]

Going tribal is not an option for most folks. Although, you would think some are still in the jungle from their behavior.

I think I could be self sufficient if i had the land to work and a nest egg to get started.

Being forced into a disastor is another thing.

 

[blgoode]

I am not sure how to take this whole lack of fuel for energy thing. If you look at our past, every generation seems to act as if the 2nd coming is hapening during THEIR time. I am not saying that things may indeed get bad but the human behaviour seems to push twords over exagerating things. I HOPE!!!!!

I do think that humans adapt very well so I hope we find a fix before 2010!

 

[B . Buxton]

I was told just the other day about how the petroleum companies are putting it to the American public. This guy has a pretty important position with a certain oil company and he told me the US alone has enough oil reserves for at least the next 3 generations.

He told me the oil companies are going to do the same thing that took place in Canada, raise the prices to ridiculous highs and then back them off so you will be happy your only paying $4 instead of $5, and if you'll stop and look back this has been happening for several years already.

He also said that the projected PROFIT earnings for this one company he works for was $100 million+ this year, he said that a memo came out last month stating, that profit amount had already been achieved for this year and it still had 5 months to go.

The only way the prices will come down is if the American people make the effort and show the Petroleum companies their not going to take it. Stay home on weekends, car pool, and park those gas guzzling suv's, take the profits away from the big companies, the only way you can hurt them is through their stock holders and ceo's pockets, if they don't sell it they go broke or lower the prices so people will buy it.
Also if the truckers go on strike, support them 100%, without the truckers this country stops.

Its up to you, not your neighbor or the other guy, its up to you and all of us. If you don't want to take a stand, make the effort and reduce your gas consumption, then don't complain about $5-$6 or higher a gallon gas prices. If your willing to pay it, their going to get richer and richer.

One last thing, this guy told me the other day what kind of effect the hurricane would have on the prices and distribution. And believe me, what he said would happen, is happening.

Bill

 

[silenthunterstudios]

Going tribal is not an option for most folks. Although, you would think some are still in the jungle from their behavior.

I think I could be self sufficient if i had the land to work and a nest egg to get started.

Being forced into a disastor is another thing.

Could it be because you live near a resort town? Although, I was near OC, and the prices were almost 50 cents cheaper than near B-more?

 

[jhiggins]

The only way the prices will come down is if the American people make the effort and show the Petroleum companies their not going to take it...

...If you don't want to take a stand, make the effort and reduce your gas consumption, then don't complain about $5-$6 or higher a gallon gas prices. If your willing to pay it, their going to get richer and richer.
Bill

Good points, Bill. It really is a consumer-controlled market. Ever watch "The Aviator"? Watching that movie made me realize how much government and big business have had there hands in each other's pockets during the last century. Ever wonder why the only public transportation is in the cities in this country, and marginal at best? Would it be in the interest of automobile and truck manufacturers to be positive about trains, trolleys, streetcars, subways, and busses? No.

Conspiracy!

Now who exactly are paying for it again? We are! Again. You are right in saying that we need to take a stand, and I think the days of the huge SUV are nearing an end. I think high gasoline prices, while only being a small piece of the energy pie, are what seem to affect us the most. Besides a house, the automobile is the second-largest purchase in American homes. I think heads are turning around and we will see public outcry for higher-mileage vehicles, and we'll see people opt for smaller vehicles when purchasing new.

 

[ddavelarsen]

Now who exactly are paying for it again? We are! Again. You are right in saying that we need to take a stand, and I think the days of the huge SUV are nearing an end. I think high gasoline prices, while only being a small piece of the energy pie, are what seem to affect us the most. Besides a house, the automobile is the second-largest purchase in American homes. I think heads are turning around and we will see public outcry for higher-mileage vehicles, and we'll see people opt for smaller vehicles when purchasing new.

Oh man, Jeff, that made me laugh. (In a cynical way) How many weeks ago was it that media reported people still saying they wouldn't give up their SUVs just because of the price of gas? And many will stick it out just so they can continue to carry their inflated noggins on thick necks? Lots.

Personally I've been feeling very self-satisfied that I drive my wife's 14-year-old Prism to work. Sucker still runs fine at 111,000 miles, though the headliner has fallen out and the wheel wells are getting rusty. I'll keep driving that thing too, cause my truck gets really crappy mileage even with its six cylinder engine and that sweet old Lincoln gets 15 or so miles to the gallon and burns vastly more expensive premium gas. I have a feeling it's going to be a very special day when we drive the "nice" car or use the truck for a while... That little Prism continues to prove its worth.

It's hell picking up chicks with though!

Bill, I find that tidbit about three generation's worth of oil reserve very interesting. I wouldn't be surprised to find it's true, and frankly that makes me feel just a bit hopeful - because if you read about Peak Oil you'll crap yourself. The idea of going tribal doesn't sound all that far out, or voluntary. So let's hope that guy is right. There is just no way the land will support 300 million hunter/gatherers.

 

[jhiggins]

It's hell picking up chicks with though!

Wait until they are on foot because of the outrageous gas prices, then your little Prism will look like one sweet ride to them!

 

[indian george]

There is just no way the land will support 300 million hunter/gatherers.

Yes it would, but 50 million would end up as cannibals. HEHEHEHE!!!!
I am starting to load up on ammo for all my guns.

 

[Don Hanson III]

Man I live out in the middle of no where. I filled the truck up today 9-3-05 at the little one pump station up the road. $2.99 per gal. for 89 oct.,now that's up a little but not like what I've seen on TV. The lady at the store said they will not gouge and I said ''thank you''. I've been driving the 4 cyl. Nisson and not the big 4X4 Dodge. But hey, I walk to work, only leave the shop once or twice a week. We buy older vehicles, pay cash for them and drive em over 200,000 miles. Sold my wife's last Jeep cherekee with 235,000 for almost what we paid for it and drove it for over six years. OK I've rambled long enough, F*** the oil companies and the car companies

Don Hanson

 

[Kim Breed]

Yes it would, but 50 million would end up as cannibals. HEHEHEHE!!!!
I am starting to load up on ammo for all my guns.

Trade knives for more guns and ammo. More drive off are occuring and Im waiting for the old syphen hose to come out. going to have to booby trap the gas lids. Utter caos. I love it, flash backs to overseas.