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Hey guys, just a fyi I was the one that introduced this coating to the knife world, and have been selling it for over a year now. I even posted on here. I even sent jb and baker test samples and introduced them to the tech and they went behind my back. Not the behavior I would expect from the knife world.

They have the covid version coating, its not bad, focuses on antimicrobial. And no they aren't getting it from me, and gave me no credit, but went behind my back and got the old version from a different distributor.

I have a newer revision, base coat top coat system. It’s primary use is for shears for cutting carbon fiber and Kevlar. Also food safe. It significantly improves edge retention and does a better job protecting damascus. I also have more advanced application methods.

To clear some other misunderstandings about these coatings

They contain polysilazane (3 customized oligomers that acheive covalent bonding) and a silane (the network forming agent.) It is very hard but flexible. Polysilazanes are true ceramic precursor polymers. Unlike your automotive Siloxane (fancy special bathroom caulking good to 600° or so) the polysilazane will survive extreme temperatures. I have coatings for pistons, headers, exhaust, even a bore coating for guns. (I actually distribute a whole line of automotive, boating, industrial, aerospace, cookware, and many more.)

We have a color coating that is much more durable than cerekote.

Hope this clears things up a bit.
 
Hoping you would pop on here Matt! This sounded like the one you were talking about recently. I need to order a bottle from you one of these days!
 
Taz said:
Hoping you would pop on here Matt! This sounded like the one you were talking about recently. I need to order a bottle from you one of these days!
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Hey brother!

Yuppp, gator boys are sketchy, thats the last time they will be seeing any of my products or ideas lol! Can't wait until all of their spray bottles clog up 😂

Ill never trust the gator boys again with any of my products. Good thing I only sent them the first one I found before I got the better system.
 
Mattz1983 said:
We have a color coating that is much more durable than cerekote.
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Now you have my attn as I have at least one rifle I was planning to have Cerakoted. You can't receive direct messages so how can I find your company without violating BF rules?
 
GRapp said:
Now you have my attn as I have at least one rifle I was planning to have Cerakoted. You can't receive direct messages so how can I find your company without violating BF rules?
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He could add his website to his user profile.
 

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Thats how you can get ahold of me to get about any products. I have the knife listed on ebay also, but I would prefer to avoid all those fees, for other coatings I can get you a product list.

We typically deal with more industrial application so we dont run a public site (truck loads not ounces.) We are talking to some knife supply shops about white labeling the product. I dont mind selling small amounts to my fellow knifemakers, my goal was to help the craft (and myself I was not happy with just wax or oil.) Also I sell to sharpeners to just run a 10$ mark up to get the coating with your sharpening. The coatings are a bit pricey, but can cover 15 square feet of steel. I believe it was around 100 8" x 2" chefs with rectangle blades conservatively per Oz.

Another thing, the color coatings require a help spray gun, but are air curing (Full Properties in 1 week.) You can use warm air to speed the process, but maximum properties are seen with the air curing method.

The thing about these coatings, the surface must be chemically clean, so doing a gun bore takes multiple steps, dissolving any metals filling the pores, and removing all soot and oil/grease, its a process. Their performance comes down to covalent bonding, they are as much of a surface modification as they are a coating. The bore coating is typically permanent unless used in a military application. This covalent bonding cant happen if any oil is on the surface, the coating basically is designed in a way that when it cures, it reacts and becomes part of the surface sharing electrons with the substrate bonding with hydroxyl sites. If those sites are covered - no bonding.

Our newest base coat / top coat system is 60 an ounce, 88 for two. If you order a gallon and do your own bottling the per ounce price is significantly lower. Technically you could cover every metal surface in your shop (this is my shop 100%.)

When applied correctly, I can dunk my damascus in my custom etching solution and pull it out completely dry and untouched. This etching solution acheives a dark etch in a few mins, deep etch in two or three 2-3min dunks and thats after I just cut it woth 50% distilled again. Before it was pretty much an insta etch.

Its a lot of fun to mess with and experiment with. And I think I forgot to mention the wet grip handle coating. It contains nano hooks that grip your hand like nano velcro, so a knife covered in blood won't be slippery. We can add CBN, SiC, SiN, Nano Diamond, carbon nano whiskers, carbon nano hooks, a uv dye so you can use a blacklight to identify spots you missed and know when to reapply the coating.

If you have an idea we can likely make it happen.
 
I let this run as long as it didn't get into sales. but since Mattz has started giving prices, I am closing the thread.

Hopefully, Matt will get a Dealer Level Membership and sell his product/services in The Exchange as well as being able to discuss the sales end of his business here.

If anyone tries it and wants to post their results, start a new Gator Skin tread.
 
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