GEC #68 *Buckaroo* (aka Pertinux's Pattern Ramble)

[pertinux]

Looks like GEC is about to put a stockman blade selection on the equal-end, 3.5" #68 frame, hitherto the dominion of the estimable White Owl.

Here's the Buckaroo set-up knife:

~ P.

 

[aadhtbb]

They should also show how high is the sheepfoot blade when closed..

Also ,nice pattern :thumbup:

 

[Blues]

Just as a point of information, cattle knives, while generally associated with a "spear" master blade, are also found with "clip point" master blades (such as in your example above).

Case was one of the well known manufacturers to produce cattle knives in that configuration.

So, while I've pretty much quit my (ill fated) attempts to have folks identify patterns by certain long established nomenclature, I know that you are interested in the topic, Sarah, which is why I bring it up.

Long winded explanation over.

 

[supratentorial]

Neat cattle knife, buckaroo. This is a nice size for a cattle knife. I think their other cattle knives are 4". ...The main blade does look a bit small relative to the size of the handle (reminds me a little of the Maverick pattern) but it might just be the angle. The pattern is a nice addition to their lineup.

 

[pertinux]

Just as a point of information, cattle knives, while generally associated with a "spear" master blade, are also found with "clip point" master blades (such as in your example above).

Case was one of the well known manufacturers to produce cattle knives in that configuration.

So, while I've pretty much quit in my attempts to have folks identify patterns by certain long established nomenclature, I know that you are interested in the topic, Sarah, which is why I bring it up.

Long winded explanation over.

Could you maybe use a little more wind, and tell me if the above pattern looks stockmanly or cattle-prone, to your eyes?

(In all seriousness, I hesitated to use the word "stockman," but since the above knife has the same blades as my Case Stockman® I decided to start there.)

The knife itself doesn't interest me terribly, but I am always interested to see new pattern implementations on frames that are familiar to me, which the #68 is. Of course, having gotten this far, I'd appreciate accurate terminology as well. ;-)

~ P.

 

[Blues]

It's a cattle knife. The stockman is derived from the cattle knife which apparently preceded it by a generation or so. (The stockman being built upon the serpentine "premium" stock frame.)

A stockman may have the same blades as a cattle knife but a cattle knife is ordinarily an equal end pattern (or a derivation such as the "Eureka" cattle knife I posted up a few days back).

I'm winded.

 

[pertinux]

It's a cattle knife....

I'm winded.

Whew-- just in time! I actually understood all that, first time through.


Look: no more questions. Really.






(Thinks some more, revisits post, checks again.)


Nope, still good.


I think that's a first.



~ P.

 

[Blues]

Whew-- just in time! I actually understood all that, first time through.


Look: no more questions. Really.






(Thinks some more, revisits post, checks again.)


Nope, still good.


I think that's a first.



~ P.

 

[KYenglish]

I think I'm developing a inclination towards equal ends...if I understand what they are.

I have one - a question - is a scout knife an equal end...or can a scout knife be an equal end if it has, well...equal ends?

 

[Blues]

I have one - a question - is a scout knife an equal end...or can a scout knife be an equal end if it has, well...equal ends?

Yes it is. There's no real mystery...if the frame (regardless of blades) has this shape, it's an equal-end:

 

[robot37]

You know that GEC would make a small fortune on cattle knives if they would equip them with spear master blades.
I say that they should build 'em up on both the #53 and on this #68 frame.

Who's with me?

-nate

 

[KYenglish]

Yes it is. There's no real mystery...if the frame (regardless of blades) has this shape, it's an equal-end:

Thank you!

 

[Blues]

Thank you!

My pleasure. (There are other equal ended patterns (such as "balloons") but there's no sense muddying up the water in this thread since the discussion is centering on cattle patterns.)

 

[bonky]

You know that GEC would make a small fortune on cattle knives if they would equip them with spear master blades.
I say that they should build 'em up on both the #53 and on this #68 frame.

Who's with me?

-nate

As long as the spear is done like their upcoming #15 spear, I'm with you all the way on the #53s :encouragement:

 

[pertinux]

My pleasure. (There are other equal ended patterns (such as "balloons") but there's no sense muddying up the water in this thread since the discussion is centering on cattle patterns.)

Since when?!


Oh, riiIIIiiiight.

Blues, you're a Cattle (knife) Man. How does the mock-up of this knife look to you, in terms of proportions, or as compared to other non-custom options currently available? To my inexperienced eyes, it at least looks more promising than the Maverick, which looked ill-proportioned to me somehow (I've never held one in-hand).

Also, in this thread and in others, I mean to neither harp on nor promote GEC as a company, but given that they are currently producing new patterns with some regularity, they provide a visual jumping-in place (or more current reference?) for me to try to understand traditional patterns and the more modern (if mixed!) interpretations thereof.

~ P.

 

[KYenglish]

My pleasure. (There are other equal ended patterns (such as "balloons") but there's no sense muddying up the water in this thread since the discussion is centering on cattle patterns.)

Thanks again, sorry if I took away from the thread,

back to the subject, I think i like the white owl as it is, but I've only seen them i pictures so far, slimmer is better for my pocket.

 

[confucius37]

Thanks again, sorry if I took away from the thread,

back to the subject, I think i like the white owl as it is, but I've only seen them i pictures so far, slimmer is better for my pocket.

Well soon enough you'll have one in hand!

I agree about the slimness, I like the white owl because its so slim I didn't even know I had it in my pocket. The down side however of such slimness is that I found it hard to get a solid grip on the knife for tasks that required a bit of leverage (for example cutting flowers to length for a vase)

 

[waynorth]

I come from the school of LGIV, and so I think of a Cattle knife under 3 5/8", such as this one proposed, as a "Junior" Cattle knife.
Most old Cattle knives are 3 5/8" to 3 3/4".
The name Buckaroo is very appropriate, with its implication of youth or youthfulness!

 

[KYenglish]

Well soon enough you'll have one in hand!

I agree about the slimness, I like the white owl because its so slim I didn't even know I had it in my pocket. The down side however of such slimness is that I found it hard to get a solid grip on the knife for tasks that required a bit of leverage (for example cutting flowers to length for a vase)

Looking forward to it, thanks for the "thought/review", it's a good point,

ummm, I like the name "cattle knife" better then buckaroo, sorry pertinux, I'm all tapped out of traditional knife knowledge and can't think of anything else relevant. thanks for the pictures.

 

[Blues]

Sarah, I learned a long time ago not to make too many judgments about a knife from an image. I've seen Bose knives that didn't look quite right to me in an image that sure looked right as rain in person.

The master blade should be long enough to properly fit the frame while the two secondary blades (assuming that it's a double backspring knife), need to be ground just right and crinked (bent) so that they pass one other without rubbing or interference. I'm sure that the experienced hands at GEC have many patterns and examples of properly executed cattle knives from which to draw up their new offering.