GEC 85 blade question

Trand,

I did that my higonokamis (used gutted paracord).

Is there enough extra room between the tip of the blade and the top of the sides to keep the tip from being exposed, since the blade wouldn't be going down all the way after inserting the matchstick?

Kris,

I looked around at those, but I believe I am too late for them. Plus, I recall them being quite a bit more than the GEC bullet jack, I think(...?)
 
I believe there is enough room but as each blade is hand ground/sharpened, it may or may not be the case. It should be ok until it is sharpened enough so that it doesn't hit the edge as Kevin mentioned. Also, if you follow through and actually close the blade yourself instead of letting it snap then its not really an issue anyway.

Great minds eh Kris?:cool:

Yeah, they were more expensive but they were all serialized, stamped, pen in front of main blade (not sure if this adds to the cost) and all steel construction. In addition, they came with a wipe cloth. If its what you REALLY want, then the extra $$ won't matter in the long run. Its certainly cheaper than getting a regular Northfield and then swapping out the handles with Ebony unless you're proficient in doing so.

Still, I do like the Tidioute finish with the drawn swedge. The nail nick is very functional too.
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2Dead said:
I believe there is enough room but as each blade is hand ground/sharpened, it may or may not be the case. It should be ok until it is sharpened enough so that it doesn't hit the edge as Kevin mentioned. Also, if you follow through and actually close the blade yourself instead of letting it snap then its not really an issue anyway.

Great minds eh Kris?:cool:
Yeah, they were more expensive but they were all serialized, stamped, pen in front of main blade (not sure if this adds to the cost) and all steel construction. In addition, they came with a wipe cloth. If its what you REALLY want, then the extra $$ won't matter in the long run. Its certainly cheaper than getting a regular Northfield and then swapping out the handles with Ebony unless you're proficient in doing so.
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Sounds like one heck of a knife!!! I would jump all over that!
 
Well, this would be a user, not a collector. I have a mental block that prevents me from actually using a knife that costs more than a benjamin. The GEC is getting close, but seeing how good they look when they're used from yinz's pictures, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one. I was commicating with knifeswapper about picking out a nice dark one without striping...
 
Kevin has two of those!!!? Someday, someday, I will find mine. I love my 85's. I've had three now. The spear is great. Good point, scooping ability and the angle at which it stems from the bolster makes an nice sorta hook to cut rope and the like. . . But that single blade ebony eo is my holy grail.
 
At least two - at least one serialized and one not. I asked about the unserialized one(s). From the way it sounded, I think he might have several unserialized, but he wasn't able to look at them right away. I guess you could email and ask him...
 
Thanks for the insight, Blaine. Oh, and thanks again for doing all that leg work on my Pretzlaff. That was a fun day for me:) Get an 85, man. They're a fantastic pattern!
 
Haven't had it happen on my #85, and I don't usually let the blade in easy...

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It's a sweet knife and I love the micarta covers. I just find myself carrying the clip bladed version more. Could be that it is pickle green though :D
 
I have the 85 clip. it also doesnt like being snapped shut...
i dont do it, but whenever i show it to folks, THEY like to snap it shut

but it sharpens out real easy

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I sent my spear back to be fixed. Now it snaps shut with no problem. If I had it to do over, I would make sure the seller snapped it shut real hard BEFORE sending it to me to determine if the blade dinks. With so many known defects out there, the customer should not have to deal with the problem. In fact, I a very disappointed GEC does not test these before sending them out.
 
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I sent my spear back to be fixed. Now it snaps shut with no problem. If I had it to do over, I would make sure the seller snapped it shut real hard BEFORE sending it to me to determine if the blade dinks. With so many known defects out there, the customer should not have to deal with the problem. In fact, I a very disappointed GEC does not test these before sending them out.
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What do you expect their solution was to your knife "rapping"?
 
What do you expect their solution was to your knife "rapping"?
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knifeswapper - Since we are taking surveys, I'll play. What is knife rapping?

rapping: verb (used with object) 1. to strike, especially with a quick, smart, or light blow

What I expect GEC to do is put out an efficacious product. I own a bunch of them, and they cost plenty. In the case of the 85, after a period of time a known defect surfaced. I expect it to be corrected on existing stock before being sent to customers. As far as rapping goes, anyone is going to slip up and let the blade close on its own once and a while. That's how mine got dinked.

Maybe you are imagining reverse spine whacking. Search engine it.
 
knifeswapper said:
What do you expect their solution was to your knife "rapping"?
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Although I'm not him, my guess would be reprofiling the edge a bit to allow the kick to keep the blade above the center pin.
It's what I would do to correct the issue.
What do you think might have been done to fix it Mike, am I way off base here?
 
Mike is simply asking if you know what GEC did to correct your knife, "rapping" meaning "blade hitting the spring."
Take it easy, we're all friends here.
 
I sent my 2011 BF knife to GEC to fix the "rapping" issue (That is what GEC called it). I really don't know what they did to it, it looked identical when it came back to me, they did sharpen out the dent on the blade, but they certainly did not reprofile it greatly, in fact the problem still exists, but to a lesser extent. From what I understand it is caused by a spring that is too weak to keep the blade from over swinging on the closing snap and hitting the backspring.

Maybe a maker that has more experience with slipjoint construction can comment?
 
zippofan said:
Haven't had it happen on my #85, and I don't usually let the blade in easy...

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It's a sweet knife and I love the micarta covers. I just find myself carrying the clip bladed version more. Could be that it is pickle green though :D
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Superb Barehead this, not seen one before. I wonder, does the 85 Clip blade show this denting feature too? Or did GEC learn their lesson?
 
My apologies if I misinterpreted the reference to "rapping". Although I have done a lot of reading here, I was not familiar with the term. You guys saved me a hot private email to the man - thanks. I hope Mr. Latham will chime back in on this.

I did not think to ask what GEC did to correct the problem. I was aware that others had sent 85's in for the same repair, only to have the issue recure. Mine seems to be good now. I did not mention this is one of Charlie's harness knives, so I was really upset.
 
Just thought they might have passed on what the cure was for this particular knife; or better yet that it was obvious on re-examining the knife. The guy that made and repaired this knife calls it "rapping", but as long as we all understand what we are talking about I am not married to any particular term.

As to the rest of your post; GEC neither expects customers to ease their blades into position nor do they ignore any kind of known issue. But many times the knives are long gone before an issue that was not presented in the factory gets to their attention. It is not any more economically advantageous for them to have to invest another $10-15 in repairing a knife that comes back than it is palatable to those that receive them.

As to the solution, they don't discuss their processes. But in minor cases I would expect they hone the issue out as bonky mentioned. This is probably done in the event that the blade was not taken down enough in the first place; as the blade is one of few components whose tolerance is entirely implemented by human hands. In more severe cases I would expect they expand the kick, as it may have been taken down too much in the first place. Which one was utilized would be obvious by noting where the tip of the blade fell before / after. GEC loves to have the tip as close to the liner plane as possible and if it was already close to being too high anyway, then it was probably a stock removal issue.
 
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