GEC..dull blades

knarfeng, i agree with you about sharpness being the one aspect that the owner can modify. i like sharpening, but it takes time and i already have about 50 or more knives waiting to be sharpened.
i never thought about USA knife companies purposely sending out rather dull knives because of fear of liability. if so, it is ludicrous. you buy a knife because you need a sharp edge to cut things. it is the whole purpose of a knife.
not putting a sharp edge on a knife is not finishing the knife. it should come completed, finished. then after some use, you sharpen it. Rough Rider really seems to understand this. that's now their reputation and in part why people buy them. it's good for business.
imagine if this thread had been "Wow is my new GEC ever Sharp", many of us would probably make a GEC the next knife we buy. that's why i don't get it.
roland
 
There's no liability issue, or other justification, for selling the buying public (us) a product that doesn't live up to its expected use and reasonable expectations. Knives are supposed to cut things. To do that they need to be sharp; plain & simple. The law recognizes that of course. Hard to understand that the slip joint makers don't seem to. I have seen such comments for fixed blade or kitchen knives for instance. When you get that boning knife or camp knife in the door, and open the package, you find that it is pretty darn sharp, out of the box. Sure, we can make it sharper, but that's not the point.
 
Sorry...Should have typed (and proof read) that I have "NOT" seen such comments for fixed blades, etc....
 
dan oliver said:
There's no liability issue, or other justification, for selling the buying public (us) a product that doesn't live up to its expected use and reasonable expectations. Knives are supposed to cut things. To do that they need to be sharp; plain & simple. The law recognizes that of course. Hard to understand that the slip joint makers don't seem to. I have seen such comments for fixed blade or kitchen knives for instance. When you get that boning knife or camp knife in the door, and open the package, you find that it is pretty darn sharp, out of the box. Sure, we can make it sharper, but that's not the point.
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Sorry that's was just my stupid a$$ mind trying to take up for the USA KNIFE Manufacturer. If I were buying imports that met my expectations and The USA knives didn't. Damned if I wouldn't quit buying USA knives, and throw my sharping tools away........
 
I'm a pretty big fan of the rough rider line and also the chinese Marbles knives. I've purchased over 100 and haven't had a dull one yet and I have used a few for over a year. I understand the desire to support US made knives and I do see the need to do so. However it seems to me that the US makers should make sure that every knife going out is top notch otherwise they will lose business to the chinese knives as they get better and better. Just a thought and NOT meant to offend anyone.

Regards

Robin
 
The argument of leaving the sharpening to the end user has always struck me as a cop out. It used to be a sign of the cutler's art to produce a sharp blade. Isn't it still part of the test to become a Master Cutler?

If a company is selling "quality" that should extend to sharpness. At least, imo, and all that.

I fear this is just another example of manufacturers accepting poorer quality off their lines in the name of getting product to market. Where they might have used to strive for an intangible of quality, they now strive for a "less than 1% defect rate", which is not at all the same thing.

-- Sam
 
After hearing about them here I took the plunge and picked up a couple. The fit and finish was excellent for a factory knife and I also like the action since it was not that stiff on the ones I picked up. It did bother me a little that the knives were somewhat dull out of the tube, but it did not take too long at all to get them sharp and as far as comparing them to the RR's I have, they are heads above in every aspect other than the sharpness out of the box as far as the examples I own.

The RR sunfish I own has gaps all over the place especially between the spring and the liners and the blade action is poor at best but it came quite sharp. Not bad at all for under 20 bucks. The GEC sunfish came dull, but with a fit and finish I would consider excellent no gaps that light will penetrate. I would like to see them put better edges on them, but that will not keep me from buying more.
 
Bastid, my RR sunfish is the only one of my RR knives that, like yours, is of rather poor fit and finish. there seem to be different 'lines' of RR. the Long Rifle ones are the best to date; very nice. i suggest if you ever make another RR purchase to try one of the Long Rifle series.
roland
 
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