GEC half stops spring never flush

Some of mine are. I don't purposely look at it, because I don't see how it matters, so I don't know what the ratio is. I'd guess in favor of being flush.
 
My Northfield 77 is dead flush open and closed for both blades. Half stop is a hair proud on both.

I don't use my knife in the half stop position, so I'm good with it...
 
We don't use the knife in the closed position either, anybody being all right with the spring sunk in closed position? guess not.
 
stezann said:
We don't use the knife in the closed position either, anybody being all right with the spring sunk in closed position? guess not.
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You carry a knife in the closed position. Proud or sunk springs in the closed position would catch fabric and ruin pockets. So actually it is a functional concern, whereas it is not in the half stop position.
 
ALLHSS said:
You carry a knife in the closed position. Proud or sunk springs in the closed position would catch fabric and ruin pockets. So actually it is a functional concern, whereas it is not in the half stop position.
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Thank you.
 
black mamba said:
Me too, I prefer cam tangs. Different patterns historically do or don't have half-stops, not sure how those decisions came about, though.
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Rounded tangs were developed by French cutlers as a way of reducing wear to the spring (more of a problem with softer steels and more regular use of a knife). It's been argued that Sheffield cutlers were slow to adopt them, as they foresaw that by doing so, they'd sell fewer knives in the future ;) :thumbup:

I did a quick straw poll of the half dozen GEC knives in a box on my coffee table last night, and I didn't think any of them were bad in the half-stop position, some were flush, on others the spring was very slightly depressed, but none of them were bad.
 
This thread is a reminder that we all have our pet peeves. The OP doesn't like sunk or proud springs at half-stop. It's a non-issue for me. On the other hand I dislike it when the back of the blade doesn't line up with the backspring when the knife is fully open. I've learned to accept it, but it still bugs me.

If you want perfection you'll have to spend much more than GEC asks for a knife.
 
kamagong said:
This thread is a reminder that we all have our pet peeves. The OP doesn't like sunk or proud springs at half-stop. It's a non-issue for me. On the other hand I dislike it when the back of the blade doesn't line up with the backspring when the knife is fully open. I've learned to accept it, but it still bugs me.

If you want perfection you'll have to spend much more than GEC asks for a knife.
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Thats interesting and a good point because I have never looked at that before! I dont really care about flush half stops BTW, I just always check (so I guess I sort of care). Like said earlier in the thread though, it is more a a pleasant surprise when you get a flush half stop than an annoyance when you dont.
 
kamagong said:
This thread is a reminder that we all have our pet peeves. The OP doesn't like sunk or proud springs at half-stop. It's a non-issue for me. On the other hand I dislike it when the back of the blade doesn't line up with the backspring when the knife is fully open.
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I'm with you on this Christian, as you know my friend! :)
 
Haha, the first time I met Bill Howard I asked a similar question... I had one of the little EO 25s with me, which puts the spring below the level of the covers at half-stop. At the time it was the first knife I had seen with that set-up, as in my collection most springs are proud at half-stop and some (mostly customs) are flush. First, it was a dead giveaway to Bill that I was a forumite! But Bill basically said that they don't care where the spring is at half-stop, and it simply depends on the pattern, etc. That may have changed a bit over time, because this was years ago. But I also recall that Bill was glad to hear that I was a knife user and not just a collector!
-Nick
 
Jack Black said:
. . . some were flush, on others the spring was very slightly depressed, but none of them were bad.
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Jack, thanks for the info. I don't recall any of mine being really bad, or very far off, either.
When I said only a few out of hundreds were flush, I meant completely flush, as in perfectly flush.
 
black mamba said:
Jack, thanks for the info. I don't recall any of mine being really bad, or very far off, either.
When I said only a few out of hundreds were flush, I meant completely flush, as in perfectly flush.
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It was only a random sample Jeff, but I think if any of my others were very different I'd have noticed :thumbup:
 
Will Power said:
Could you show a picture of what you mean please Jack? I'm puzzled.
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I usually think of it as 'blade droop' Will! :thumbdn: The main blade of this later Joseph Rodgers Jack has it, but the pen is even worse :(

 
I see it! Yesss, very unpleasant feature:barf:

I think I heard of it referred to as blade cant ?
 
Will Power said:
I see it! Yesss, very unpleasant feature:barf:

I think I heard of it referred to as blade cant ?
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Good phrase Will, and that is just the smarticon I was looking for! :D :thumbup:
 
None of my GECs is truly flush at half. No big deal. However I have a couple of Case Swaybacks (both Jack & Gent) that are all flush at half, as well as open and closed. It's a nice touch when it happens.
 
kamagong said:
This thread is a reminder that we all have our pet peeves. The OP doesn't like sunk or proud springs at half-stop. It's a non-issue for me. On the other hand I dislike it when the back of the blade doesn't line up with the backspring when the knife is fully open. I've learned to accept it, but it still bugs me.

If you want perfection you'll have to spend much more than GEC asks for a knife.
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Interestingly another subjective element.....

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There is a slight step from the backspring to both blades on the knife by Richard Rogers. Something he did on purpose I assure you:)

As far as GEC's knives not being flush at the half stop, give them time.... I've noticed pretty much every other gripe people have had being slowly ironed out:)

Sam
 
avoidspam said:
...There is a slight step from the backspring to both blades on the knife by Richard Rogers. Something he did on purpose I assure you:)
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Ryu's knives also have a "step". But they are some of the most beautiful knives that I have ever seen.
 
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