GEC Pattern Suggestion---"Dedicated Slicer"

AFAustin

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I imagine GEC gets lots of suggestions for new patterns, and most are probably from guys who know a whole lot more about trad design and history than me---but I won't let that stop me. ;)

I really enjoy a great slicing knife, and to me that means a thin and tall blade: thin for the least resistance when going through the material, and tall to put some steel (and power) behind the slice and to keep the blade aligned with minimal twisting.

The GEC I have which comes closest to this ideal is my #74 Saddle Trapper, whose thin and tall blades can get wickedly sharp and slice like crazy. The only problem is that, having two tall blades, the closed one can really dig into the palm when using the other. So something along the same lines, but with either a single blade or a jack with a small secondary which would sit low when closed, would seem to fill the bill and make for a heckuva "dedicated slicer". The last pic shows what a sleek little number it could be (if you ignore the wharnie peeking out from the other side!).

I'm not shy so I went ahead and sent my suggestion in to Chris at GEC, even though it may end up in a long queue, I know.

What do you guys think?

Andrew

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I was going to suggest the 74 before I read your suggestion! Your best bet may be to send to a modder and have them remove the wharncliffe blade.

Someone here has done that to their 2012 forum saddle trapper and it looks really slick.

I really regret selling my 2012 forum knife...I would love to have another.
 
I was going to suggest the 74 before I read your suggestion! Your best bet may be to send to a modder and have them remove the wharncliffe blade.

Someone here has done that to their 2012 forum saddle trapper and it looks really slick.

I really regret selling my 2012 forum knife...I would love to have another.

It was Bob who had Glennbad do that to his forum knife to create a 'lanny's clip' and ended up selling it to another member here.
Looks great without the wharnie and a dedicated clip blade and no hot spots. I saw find a moodder to do so for you :)
 
I was going to suggest the 74 before I read your suggestion! Your best bet may be to send to a modder and have them remove the wharncliffe blade.

Someone here has done that to their 2012 forum saddle trapper and it looks really slick.

I really regret selling my 2012 forum knife...I would love to have another.
Yup. That was mine. Unfortunately I had to sell it off, but it's in good hands now. But I agree with Andrew, that blade on the 74 would make a great slicer. :thumbup:
I had Glennbad do the mod on mine. He did a fantastic job too. :thumbup:



 
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That mod looks awesome. I almost never use my 2012 because the Wharncliffe is so uncomfortable in use for my hands.
 
Yeah, that Wharncliffe rides way too high and as Tim pointed out, creates a "hot spot" in your hand.
 
I agree with the previous posters, and think that your idea would be very close to a Lanny's Clip, and be very popular.
 
Look into a TK Cuban Pen (53 frame).

I totally agree with the T.K. it's got a great thin clip and the pen is set up like a moose so, no rub from the secondary tang to mess with your index finger where a "choil" type spot would be. Also a single spring and a nice easy yet strong pull 5-6. Also 74 ranch hand? or ranch trapper? Not sure which it's called, is nice. It's a trapper style 74 with a clip and a spey. The spey sits nice and low as well. I like the width of the two blades for a filling grip, but I've thought about having it modded to a single blade as well which would make it a pinchable open clip!
 
The 74 ranch hand is very comfy using the clip blade. The secondary spey is very slim to the handle and does not obstrcut the grip and you get to use that wonderful clip on the 74. I love mine!

 
I think if you want a dedicated slicer it should be a single blade knife. If it is to be "dedicated", then you are not going to do anything else with it so it does not need a secondary.
As for frame i suggest a 53 or 23 because you want the longest blade that can fit into a GEC frame.
Now: which blade profile ? I think a slight Drop Point would be the most suitable.
And, a name; what would you call it ? Catchy names likely help with sales.
kj
 
I don't think the blade of such a knife need be tall. Most carving knives are slim and long without a high prophile. A GEC folding knife that comes to mind that would be a good slicer is their Mako, Fishtail with a 3 9/16" long blade. This particular one is SS but their 1095 would work too.

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Generally speaking a single-blade is the right tool for this task. But experience has shown me that the 38 Whittler is an A1 slicer having a broad thin Clip master, the secondaries are at the end of the knife and thus don't impede grip like a Jack knife pattern might. The Northwoods single-spring version with Wharncliffe might be good too but I believe it's Sabre ground and I never find these magical slicers.

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The single-spring EZ-Open 85 with a broad thin Spear performs impressively too and also consider the forthcoming 77 single-blades, they might qualify.

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I don't think the blade of such a knife need be tall. Most carving knives are slim and long without a high prophile. A GEC folding knife that comes to mind that would be a good slicer is their Mako, Fishtail with a 3 9/16" long blade. This particular one is SS but their 1095 would work too.

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The 63 Mako is a superb slicer.
One of my favorites is a Templar in the Mardi Gras acrylic with a modded for EO with a dremel.
I agree with Ed that a knife need not be wide to be a good slicer, just thin and sharp works well also.
 
Generally speaking a single-blade is the right tool for this task. But experience has shown me that the 38 Whittler is an A1 slicer having a broad thin Clip master, the secondaries are at the end of the knife and thus don't impede grip like a Jack knife pattern might. The Northwoods single-spring version with Wharncliffe might be good too but I believe it's Sabre ground and I never find these magical slicers.

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The single-spring EZ-Open 85 with a broad thin Spear performs impressively too and also consider the forthcoming 77 single-blades, they might qualify.

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I agree about the 38 pattern. The clip on the Grinling is great for slicing. I really like the feel of the Northwoods Whillemette Whittler on the 38 frame, it's a great slicer as well as it's full flat ground. No scale with flats on the top of the blade like many Northwoods.
-Brandon
 
I think if you want a dedicated slicer it should be a single blade knife. If it is to be "dedicated", then you are not going to do anything else with it so it does not need a secondary.
As for frame i suggest a 53 or 23 because you want the longest blade that can fit into a GEC frame.
Now: which blade profile ? I think a slight Drop Point would be the most suitable.
And, a name; what would you call it ? Catchy names likely help with sales.
kj

I'll throw my 2c and my two in with kootenay both these fit the bill perfectly the #23 or if you prefer stainless the #42

 
I just pulled out my Smith & Sons "Mudbug" which is the GEC Sodbuster, 4 1/2" with a 3 3/4" Drop point blade which has a very thin full flat grind, so This Is It: The Perfect Slicer !
kj

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The only change i would make would the steel. For a kitchen knife i prefer stainless so instead of 1095 i suggest 440C which is often over-looked but it is excellent steel for knife blades.

kj
 
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I have to agree with the koot, a stainless steel special edition Bull Buster would be in order, sporting only one of three cover choices... oak, African Blackwood, or Tru Ivory. I prefer a GEC over the Mudbug for one simple reason, I like the embellished bird's eye pivot, as well as it being a slippy with a half stop. A special Bull Buster edition would quickly, and permanently, become the proverbial "barbecue" knife.
 
What about a sod buster in O1?
The trailing point has been a butcher shop staple for the sole application of a slicing implement.

The O1 can take a Very keen edge and will often allow for a thinner behind the shoulder measurement than I am comfortable with using my 1095 steeled knives at.

Here is my sanded micarta O1.
 
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