Gemini prototype for sale

Gollnick

Gollnick

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For those of you who may not have noticed, The Edge Equipment is auctioning off the fancy Gemini prototype. This is a one-of-a-kind piece, really special. I suspect that there'll be a lot of interest from balisong enthusiasts and also from collectors of Darrel Ralph in general.

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(BTW, normally, I dislike "auction spotting" posts since I believe that the auction sites, amazon, ebay, bladeauction, etc., are well-known and anybody wishing to purchase a balisong at auction can watch these sites for himself. But, this auction is taking place on an unusual site. I didn't want anyone to miss this very unusual opportunity.)


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com

[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 03-10-2001).]
 
Sweet!!! I just got finished drooling over Chuck's review and pictures of the Gemini Prototype.
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Chuck,

I thought for sales (or auction) should only be in the For Sale Forum?

Shouldn't you move this there?

And the topic should read for auction so people don't think they can just buy it.

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Rick Gray - Left Handers Unite



[This message has been edited by RGRAY (edited 03-10-2001).]
 
As I said, for those who can't or don't read, while I normally dislike "auction spotting" posts since I believe that the auction sites, amazon, ebay, bladeauction, etc., are well-known and anybody wishing to purchase a balisong at auction can watch these sites for himself. I felt that since this auction is taking place on an unusual site I would go ahead and post it.

Let me remind you that I am not selling any Gemini balisongs. I make nothing off of this project, nothing. I've contributed to it because I am eager to bring a new absolutely first-rate custom maker into balisongs since there is quite a dirth of choices right now.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
>>since there is quite a dirth of choices right now.

Quite a "dirth" does that mean to many or two few? I can not find dirth in the dictionary. Thanks, JohnR7
 
Chuck,

"As I said, for those who can't or don't read..."

I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.

"I normally dislike "auction spottings..."

I don't like them either, but they are permitted in the For Sale Forum and that's where this belongs.

Also, like I said; it would be nice to show that it is an auction in the topic so people don't see the post and think they are going to have a chance of buying it


"...I felt that since this auction is taking place on an unusual site I would go ahead and post it..."

First of all, if you thought it was wrong; you should not have posted it and second it belongs in the For Sale Forum.

IMHO, it doesn't look good for a Moderator to break the rules for his own reasons.




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Rick Gray - Left Handers Unite
 
In my time here, I have seen more than one bali auction notice posted here. Usually it was just for a BM/PC/WTF ever custom and noone cared. We then justified it by saying "well we just wanted to see how much someone would pay" when in reality the whole thing was started because there was a nice balisong for auction and someone wanted to let the BALISONG FORUM know that it was going on. Seems like if someone cared about the auction, it would be the people here.

If I had the $$$ I would be happy to know that I could pick up the Gemini discussed here, and I wouldn't pay attention to it if the notice were placed elsewhere.

I'm glad Chuck let us know it was going on, even if I don't have the cash to pick it up right now.

Also, I think it is appropriate given the current hype over the Gemini project and all. Everyone seems in awe of how wonderful these balis are, and then you get pissed when he tells you where someone who missed the list can get one. WTF is up with that
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John, I believe that Chuck meant dearth instead of dirth, meaning lack of or shortage.
 
Personally, I don't see what's wrong with auction spotting, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. I hardly ever check the For Sale forums myself, mainly because there are just too many ads to look through to find a certain knife, and I don't really feel I have the time for it. I think harder to find knives should be allowed to be posted about, such as Customs and old model PCs. Besides, this is the balisong forum, for balisong lovers. I'm not trying to call the shots here, but I think unless there is a Balisong section in the For Sale Forum, balisong rarities should be allowed.
 
Dirth (arcane spelling, sorry): Noun, deficit, part wanting, shortage, omission, shortfalling, ullage.

Auction announcements are not welcome in the for sale forum. They show up from time to time, true, but they are not encouraged.

As I said in my previous post but will now repeat: I am not the seller of this balisong. I have always premitted discussions of on-going auctions when they are not posted by the seller as an obvious advertisment.

Mr. Rgray, I have tried always to be consistent. I have tried to keep this forum as a place for discussion and not let it get swampped with advertisements as it quickly could. I have frequently asked if anyone would like me to change this stance. So far neither you nor anyone else has spoken up to request that change. In fact, the popular opinion seems to run strongly to the contrary.

The balisong in question is exceptional. It's a first-of-its-kind. It's a wonderful opportunity for any serious balisong collector or any serious collector of Darrel Ralph's work.

Since the auction for this exceptional piece is taking place on an obscure site, I thought that people would appreciate knowing about it and would appreciate an opportunity to discuss it.

The title of this thread is my fault an is, as you so correctly point out, in error. I am sorry for that and I appologize to you a thousand times for such a stupid mistake on my part. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to change the title of a thread. If it would be less offensive to you, I will delete this thread and start over with a better title.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com

[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 03-12-2001).]
 
Chuck,

In my first post I was just asking a question and stating an opinion.

I would not have said anything if the topic didn't say For Sale.

I hate when I see For Sale topics and the post reads "see my auction...".

I probably would not have responded back except for your first senence; "As I said, for those who can't or don't read..."

You may not be the seller, but you are very involved and have many posts about this knife.

I believe it was your idea from the beginning?

I have posted a few custom BM auction in this forum, but I always said on auction.

I think it is good to let the other swingers know.

Don't change anything for me; just my opinions.

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Rick Gray - Left Handers Unite

[This message has been edited by RGRAY (edited 03-12-2001).]
 
Ditto, hehe I feel like there's an abuse of power going on here. Many times, you (Gollnick) close very similar threads, yet here you are... advertising a balisong auction. Just because Gemini's are special in your mind, and you think this auction is a very "unusal opportunity", doesn't make it so for others. Most people could not be involved in the project mainly because of limited pieces and pricing.

Man you crack me up. So I wonder who's gonna close/move this thread? Dont worry, it's a rhetorical question.

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[This message has been edited by Cpt. Howdy (edited 03-16-2001).]
 
I agree that this should be posted on auction forum or For Sale forum, as we who want to buy something will always check there first ..

But, the fact that this thread and criticism is on going and Chuck is still letting it up, I believe he is practicing 'open governance' where we are allowed to say what we want about this.
Coming from a country like I, this is a rare experience.

I suggest Chuck editing his original message and move it to For Sale forum and let this one thread left to acknowledge the opinion voiced here about it ...
 
Just my two cents guys but, since we make up such a small percentage of the overall knife population here at BladeForums; I appreciate the Bali auction postings. I understand the potential problems with people overwhelming our forum with ads hawking their auctions and sales. And I understand that we are in a gray area with one of our moderators. If it helps think of it this way; This is not a Republic. It's a benevolent Dictatorship.

In the words of Mel Brooks, "It's good to be the king."


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[This message has been edited by Random (edited 03-16-2001).]
 
IMHO this is an honor to have a world-class maker visiting 'our' forum and keeping us posted on how things are going. If we can't make an exception for something of this magnitude then I feel we're doing ourselves an injustice. I'd feel left out if Chuck hadn't posted this..................Thanks Chuck, Dudley
 
For all that have bid on this Bali thanks!
If you have any questions please feel free to email Chuck, Kevin or myself.
The Bidding ends the 31st of March!
 
sone people are just sticklers for the rules.
In the "for sale" forum, people hate it when you say it's an auction, or if you don't post prices.
In Knifeforums, they have a special forum called "Auction Notice", but nothing like that exists here.

I don't mind if people (individuals) would post either bali auction notices, or for sale notices in the Bali forum, but I'm sure that Johnr7 and others that are in the buisiness would end up spamming the forum in a bad way.

I find that I miss some good deals if I don't go back several pages in the for sale forums, But if bali auctions were put here, then others that collect balis but don't hang out at this forum would miss out.

I don't know what would be worse.
 
Since Chuck's post doesn't hurt me I don't really care. The only thing that I don't like is when someone says "For Sale" when it really means auction, that gets kinda old when it's a knife that you've really been lookin' around for and you find out that it'll sell for twice the money you have to spend.
 
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