General outdoors knife

I agree Moras are not pretty. But there are other Scandinavian knives. I used to carry a Buck 119 for uses similar to yours. I now carry a Norwegian Helle Eggen and love it. The simple 'Scandi' grind is stout, easy to sharpen yet still holds an edge. In contrast to many Swedish knives which tend towards the utilitarian, knives of Norway are quite elegant as the Eggen is. They are also more expensive but not terrible. And then there are Finnish blades which tend to fall in the middle. (mods, can I mention Ragnar ragweedforge as a resource?) I also will carry a 100+ family heirloom hand axe, always a pleasure to use thinking about Dad and Granddad using it.
 
Becker BK16. Boom, done. Trust me, that knife will do all you need it to and more. Very capable blade. I have handled a lot of knives and the BK16 is still my favorite budget carbon blade!
 
If you go with a scandi knife, I'd recommend getting a goodsized Norton bench stone. I find sharpening a scandi on a small pocket stone a pain.

If you with a flat grind, I would recommend a guided rod system like Lansky as it's a great way to learn about raising a burr.
 
Under $50, a Mora Bushcraft Black, Kansbol or your choice of companion (can even throw in a Kydex sheath and still be way under budget) is tough to beat and a good platform for learning how you want to use a knife outdoors and how (if at all) the Mora falls short for your needs before you splurge on a more expensive knife that suits you better. Also consider the Real Steel Bushcraft II in the same price range.

Have you tried the Mora Kansbol ? If yes, which are your comments and general opinion? Also: what about the Kansbol compared to Mora 2000 ?
 
So I think my tastes and needs have changed a bit since my original post and research. I think I'd like something a little bigger, that would do well clearing up some overgrown branches and bushes on existing trails, but also OK doing some smaller tasks. Does it exist? My thought was machete + mora, but I honestly think a machete is too big and don't want to carry around two tools. It makes me lean back towards the Condor PMB. Thoughts? What if I up the budget to $75
 
Something knife-like, inexpensive, and a good chopper is the Condor Kumunga (10"). It's easy to carry. My favorite machete is the 18" Condor El Salvador model. It is certainly not knife like. The Condor Pack Golok or Village Parang should work as well. These are all ones I own. These are choppers and not so much knives like say a Kabar BK-9.
 
So I think my tastes and needs have changed a bit since my original post and research. I think I'd like something a little bigger, that would do well clearing up some overgrown branches and bushes on existing trails, but also OK doing some smaller tasks. Does it exist? My thought was machete + mora, but I honestly think a machete is too big and don't want to carry around two tools. It makes me lean back towards the Condor PMB. Thoughts? What if I up the budget to $75

So what exactly are you wanting to do with this tool now?

In my experience, "chopping" is best done with knives with a blade length of >~8-9in. Anything smaller and they just don't have the tip speed or mass to really be worth the effort and weight (in my opinion).

I find that my BK9 does a comparatively good job of doing "knife tasks" (The small knife tasks I use it for are mostly feathersticks, and tent pegs), while still chopping pretty well. I'm not saying that it does those tasks as well as a smaller knife like a Mora, but its much more nimble than it has any right to be for a knife that size. It's not the ideal chopping tool (and IMO, neither is any blade in the 7-10in range), but it does well for what it is. Its out of your expanded price range though.

For similar size (non machete) blades, look at the Condor Kumunga, and the Skrama. You could go as small as the Condor Primitive Bush knife that you keep mentioning, and it will probably work fine, especially when you get used to how to use it. I just haven't had much success with chopping in that size, and yet they are still large enough to make you think about a smaller knife for many tasks, which is why I have a hard time recommending it.

Personally, I've found that many times I simply prefer to carry two more specialized tools, rather than a single "all arounder". It can cost, and weigh less. When you looked at machetes, I'm assuming you looked at the normal 18in latin pattern machetes? Maybe one of the smaller machetes might be more your style. But to be clear I still am of the opinion that both of those would pair better with a Mora or other smaller knife than by themself.

If you did that route, check out the svord kiwi machete. Its a 12in machete thats compact, and a bit thicker than your average machete. It sounds like it would work great for what you're looking to do. It runs around ~$50 IIRC.

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The Kabar Grass machete is somewhat similar in concept being a bit of a hybrid between a machete, and a parang/golok/etc (though larger than the svord, with a 14in blade). It also runs around ~$50.

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Good luck finding something that works for you :).
 
So I think my tastes and needs have changed a bit since my original post and research. I think I'd like something a little bigger, that would do well clearing up some overgrown branches and bushes on existing trails, but also OK doing some smaller tasks. Does it exist? My thought was machete + mora, but I honestly think a machete is too big and don't want to carry around two tools. It makes me lean back towards the Condor PMB. Thoughts? What if I up the budget to $75

Look at something in the Ontario SP range. I like the SP-53, but that is 22 ounces and 9.5".

Gaston
 
If you're going to up the budget to $75, then get a Mora Companion and something in the $60 range. :thumbup: I have a Condor Bushlore, and it is an excellent knife for the money. You might want to change it up a little if you get the Mora as well and go with a different grind as the Bushlore is Scandi. The Condor Moonshiner, the Kephart or the Rodan would be solid choices.
 
Most of us carry a small knife most of the time, a folder and or small fixed blade.
Going up to a large tool for wood processing of any quantity then for me its the Skrama. Its a neat package, has a neutral balance when choked up, and will out perform nearly anything out there. Best bit its not expensive.
Compliment it with a Silky Saw and you have it all covered until you need an axe or chainsaw.

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Since I've got my Skrama its basically made all my big blades almost redundant, even my small forest axe. I'm a huge fan. Watch the y tube vids, they really are that good.
 
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