Genesis vs. Axis Lock
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clip-Genesis
thumbstuds-Genesis
lock-Axis
cut some stuff and then pass judgement on the genesis blade
it is quite a bit thinner at the edge.(5-10 thousandths)
thumbstuds-Genesis
lock-Axis
cut some stuff and then pass judgement on the genesis blade
it is quite a bit thinner at the edge.(5-10 thousandths)
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I don't buy liner lock knives anymore, so for me this is an easy choice. For someone willing to buy a liner lock, it becomes a *really* hard choice, though. The EDI Genesis is an outstanding product in all respects, including the responsiveness of customer service all the way up to owner.
The Axis, at this time, is my favorite 4" blade folder in the world, bar none, including any and all custom folders. The combination of lock reliability, blade performance, and handle comfort even in prolonged use appears to be unmatched.
Both knives look great. Both knives have excellent ergonomics, although the finger cutout on the Genesis bothers me a little bit (a few other people have reported the same thing; most people aren't bothered by it at all). Both knives are made from quality materials.
Clip: I love that Genesis clip. Love it. The Axis's clip is good enough, but the deeper the better is the way I feel.
Lock: Well, you know my feelings here. Although there are exceptions, long experience has made me not a liner lock fan. The Axis lock appears to be stronger and more reliable. It's also ambidextrous.
Blade: Both blades are exceptionally good shapes, both for utility work and defense. The Axis's blade is recurved, and recurved blades provide better slicing performance than non-recurved blades, provided the edges are at the same thinness and grit. However, the Genesis' non-recurved blade will be easier to sharpen. This is a straight performance (Axis) vs sharpenability (Genesis) tradeoff.
Joe
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The Axis, at this time, is my favorite 4" blade folder in the world, bar none, including any and all custom folders. The combination of lock reliability, blade performance, and handle comfort even in prolonged use appears to be unmatched.
Both knives look great. Both knives have excellent ergonomics, although the finger cutout on the Genesis bothers me a little bit (a few other people have reported the same thing; most people aren't bothered by it at all). Both knives are made from quality materials.
Clip: I love that Genesis clip. Love it. The Axis's clip is good enough, but the deeper the better is the way I feel.
Lock: Well, you know my feelings here. Although there are exceptions, long experience has made me not a liner lock fan. The Axis lock appears to be stronger and more reliable. It's also ambidextrous.
Blade: Both blades are exceptionally good shapes, both for utility work and defense. The Axis's blade is recurved, and recurved blades provide better slicing performance than non-recurved blades, provided the edges are at the same thinness and grit. However, the Genesis' non-recurved blade will be easier to sharpen. This is a straight performance (Axis) vs sharpenability (Genesis) tradeoff.
Joe
jat@cup.hp.com
Hello, I just became a member and I have both knives. Overall, I prefer the 710 axis over the Genesis I : part of my problems are from the fact that I am lefthanded. The use of righty liner locks scares me since I feel that if I am exerting a lot of force on the blade that I could press the lock open with hand pressure because of the direction of the righty liner lock. The axis is truely an ambidexterous knife. I rotate carrying a few knives and if I carry a right knife I use it righthanded ONLY. There is no side to side play with the locking mechanism on the axis, where as my genesis (yes, the screw are tight) has too much side play for my liking.
Just my own personal thoughts. Make your own evaluation if you get a chance to handle both of them.
lock: axis
handle: axis (I find the EDI slippery)
clip: axis (deep pocket too hard to pull out quickly)
blade: axis (I do a lot of skinning)
thumbstuds: equal
looks: who cares? - I want funtion.
Just my own personal thoughts. Make your own evaluation if you get a chance to handle both of them.
lock: axis
handle: axis (I find the EDI slippery)
clip: axis (deep pocket too hard to pull out quickly)
blade: axis (I do a lot of skinning)
thumbstuds: equal
looks: who cares? - I want funtion.
Hey maddog,
I hope you realize there is a already a famous Mad Dog, maker of fixed blades. His Rabidness is not particularly drawn to folders (at least not for defensive purposes).
You may want to change your moniker, unless you want to find yourself faced with responses either filled with adulation or feelings on the other end.
sing
I hope you realize there is a already a famous Mad Dog, maker of fixed blades. His Rabidness is not particularly drawn to folders (at least not for defensive purposes).
You may want to change your moniker, unless you want to find yourself faced with responses either filled with adulation or feelings on the other end.
sing
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Maddog,
Why is the AXIS blade better than the GENESIS for skinning?
In skinning an animal, only the first few inches of the blade, particularly the belly is used. A recurve adds no advantage to this operation. The Genesis has a bit more belly.
In my expeience it skins game like they grew a zipper...
In a recent Combat Knives Magazine, Bob Kasper found the Genesis to be the fastest opening liner lock he tested from the pocket, deep-carry clip notwithstanding.
Why is the AXIS blade better than the GENESIS for skinning?
In skinning an animal, only the first few inches of the blade, particularly the belly is used. A recurve adds no advantage to this operation. The Genesis has a bit more belly.
In my expeience it skins game like they grew a zipper...
In a recent Combat Knives Magazine, Bob Kasper found the Genesis to be the fastest opening liner lock he tested from the pocket, deep-carry clip notwithstanding.
sing.....lol, how do I change my username if I start getting flamed for my college nickname? Thanks for the info/tip.
Mr. Lombardo, you are correct, I only use a small section of the blade for skinning. Given a choice of skinners, I wouldn't use either knife. I like my stubby little 2 1/2" knife for most of my work say on a deer size carcass. Too much blade in the cavity can lead to a punctured stomach and lots of tainted meat. Rabbits: you don't even need a knife, just pull on the fur.
The genesis is a very fast knife to open up, since I can snap the blade open with a wrist motion. Being lefthanded and sliding the genesis back into ones pocket can be a little hazardous: I keep my thumb on the blade so I know it stays closed. If I don't do this the thumb stud has a tendancy to snag my pants pocket and cause the blade to open up 1/3 of the way (the larger cutout aids in thumb access for a righty). I wish more companies would make true lefty knives, or 100% ambidexterous ones. Part of the problem is 90% of the world is righty.
The genesis is a very fast knife to open up, since I can snap the blade open with a wrist motion. Being lefthanded and sliding the genesis back into ones pocket can be a little hazardous: I keep my thumb on the blade so I know it stays closed. If I don't do this the thumb stud has a tendancy to snag my pants pocket and cause the blade to open up 1/3 of the way (the larger cutout aids in thumb access for a righty). I wish more companies would make true lefty knives, or 100% ambidexterous ones. Part of the problem is 90% of the world is righty.