Gentleman's Buck at work - hostile???

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Newtronic

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Although not a collector, I have owned and used numerous Buck knives. They are great tools. Of course, I carry a personal Buck at most times, including work. I work in an office environment. Specifically I carry a model 513. The Human Resources administrator saw me using it one day and told me I was not allowed to have “weapons” at work. Of course, I indignantly replied that it wasn’t a weapon, but a tool. She said I was creating a “hostile” work environment, where others felt threatened because of it. I may be written up because of it. Since I believe that every well-equipped gentleman should carry a small Buck, I wondered if there was any literature supporting the notion that you’d be underdressed without one. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Knox
 
Just curious, which model is the 513? What sort of blade are we talking about? I couldn't find it on Buck's web site.
 
Personally, I would tell her that she is a biased old Hag, and maybe if she had lobotomy the world would be better off.
Oh, I wish you could say that.
Seriously, some people just aren't ever going to understand. I suggest finding new employment. Some employers/supervisor/managers think they know everything. If worse comes to worst, you could always pull out the employee handbook (if there is one) and say there is nothing reguarding knives in there.
IF YOU ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE SHE IS A REASONABLE HUMAN BEING, then buy one on of those retractable razor type knives from a dollar store and ask her if it would be okay if you carried that. Then tell her that your Buck is no more dangerous than the razor knife, which for some stupid reason is more acceptable in her eyes. MAN, HOW I HATE SHEEPLE.... EXCUSE ME, MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS RISING JUST THINKING ABOUT SUCH STUPIDITY. SEND ME HER EMAIL ADDRESS, AND I'LL HAVE A FEW WORDS FOR HER. I'VE GOT TO GO BEFORE I BURST A VEIN.

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EdRozen - On the cutting edge of finding out what the cutting edge is.....
 
Okay,
You will probably get very good suggestions from the good folks at ATKI (American Tool and Knife Institute). Including laws concerning knives. They have been called the NRA of knives, but that's not exactly true. Check out the website at www.atki.com
There philosophy and general information is posted there. And join!!!]
OOPS!!! Wrong website, maybe someone else can post it, or I think you can get to it from the BladeForums Links page.

[This message has been edited by edrozen (edited 05-18-2000).]
 
Newtronic, welcome aboard!!!!

Let me suggest to you to post this topic at the General Blade Discussion Forum. It seems to get the most traffic, and your topic is more related to work and legal issues than Buck Knives.

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EdRozen - On the cutting edge of finding out what the cutting edge is.....
 
The web address for AKTI is: www.AKTI.org
They would be the best place to inquire, also consider joining up with us, we need all the help we can get to fight Knife Discrimination Good luck at work, it's truly a sad tale. I think Knox was talking about a Buck 313 muskrat (discontinued)!! (Hey knox want to sell it since you can't use it at work?
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By the way, if you have and use several Buck's you are alrady a collector, Join the nice people in the Buck Collectors Club.

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Have a KNIFE day,
fmcanoe
 
Thanks for all your replies. No, she's really a nice person other than this one issue. Actually, I think the employee manual does ban "weapons" and that's really the point of the disagreement. I will follow up with the atki. Thanks.

Probably a more interesting discussion is the pocketknife itself. It is several years old, perhaps as old as 7 or 8 years. It is a Buck 513 followed by an inverted V. It has a soft aluminum handle engraved with swirls and flourishes. The single blade is 2 1/2 inches long and it has the lock mechanism that keeps the blade from folding without pushing the release on the handle.

Thanks again,

Knox
 
So she has a problem with you carrying a 2 and a half inch blade!? What the @$^%$#& is the world coming to?
 
Knox,

Of all the knives for someone to have a problem with!!
A 513 is a small knife with a kind of westerny looking scroll work on the handles. Not scary looking at all. I tend to agree with Ed's first response to your inquiry although i would never say that. ;-)
The 513 is one of the Classics which have been out since the early 80's and long since discontinued.

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Joe Houser
Director of Quality, Buck Knives Inc.
Buck Collectors club Administrator
 
Rebirth of an old thread...
Imagine if you had a Bandit thumber on your 513...you could've been fired!!!
Goose.
BCCI 1190

EDIT: Regrets for the chopped off tips in the pic. Kine like taking pics of your kids and you don't get all of 'em, but ya get the point. Get it? POINT???
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I often carry my Mayo TNT or Sirus to work but make sure I only take them out at my desk where certain people can't see. ;)
 
bbcmat said:
Lucky you don't wear a turbin and carry a concealed dagger to protect your faith.

MAT
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Lucky that your ignorance doesnt lay only in your prejudice but in your grammar also.

PAKORA
 
Newtronic said:
The Human Resources administrator saw me using it one day and told me I was not allowed to have “weapons” at work. Of course, I indignantly replied that it wasn’t a weapon, but a tool. She said I was creating a “hostile” work environment, where others felt threatened because of it. I may be written up because of it.
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How were you using your knife that day, when the HR person saw you? If you were peeling an orange or cutting an apple into slices, with your lunch, I don't see any problem. Apparently, the HR person is of the opinion that there's nothing to be accomplished in your office workplace, with a knife, but violence. I cannot fathom what you were doing with your Model 513 that would have led the HR administrator to immediately jump to calling it a "weapon."

Buckaholic, is the model 513 the top one, in your photo?

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GeoThorn
 
I asked a man, wearing a turbin, why he had a knife tucked into his waistband. (fully exposed handle - no concealment attempted). He replied it was a symbolic knife to enable him to protect his faith at any time.

If I am ignorant - then enlighten me - and keep it civilized.


MAT
 
bbcmat
I suspect that the man you spoke with was a Sikh. Sikhs carry knives, never concealed, as a badge of their faith. It symbolizes their readiness to defend their faith at any time.

I have felt, since I was very young, that my family owed a dept to the Sikhs because of a story that my Grandfather, R.W. Starr, told of his encounter with three Sikhs at Passchendaele, during World War I. My Granddad was a signalman, line runner. This was a really dangerous job. He spent his days tracing phone lines to insure that communications were maintained no matter where they lead. This meant that he was often out of the trenches, exposed. He would not let anything bad ever be said about members of the Sikh faith because he was once trapped between the front lines, in No-man’s-land and three Sikh’s left the safety of their trench to come to his aid. They got out to him but could not get back to our trenches. The four of them spent four days in a shell hole and he swore that he never would have survived without those Sikhs looking out for him.

I guess we are all God’s Children one way or another.
 
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