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HELo everyone,

Would like to know more about this brand of multi tools. Is it better in terms of quality and usability against Leatherman? Cause I am thinking of buying one multi tool and had my eyes fixed on the Gerber Diesel.
 
I own 3 Gerber tools, no problems whatsoever.

I'd suggest researching the SOG Powerlock also and see which one you might like more.

I've never owned/used a Leatherman, but LOTS of people swear by them.
 
I've owned two of the old Multipliers, a SOG, an original Leatherman, Wave, and Juice, and a Victorinox.

Each opens differently, locks (if) differently, and performs different functions according to which tools are included. I have found the Leathermans' the most innovative and most likely to give you the exact tools you need when a specific set of tasks is what you want. For a do all, the Victorinox was easily the best - but I never used the Leatherman Supertool, which is quite similar.

It might be necessary to be specific about what jobs you expect to accomplish before narrowing down on tool choices - the Juice I have has no sawblade, the Vic, no scissors. So you're really deciding what you want it to do - not what brand - then going where that leads you. It lead me away from Gerber because of certain design features and continually simplifying quality standards, i.e., they pinched, got cheapened up, broke in the field, and were late getting locking tools to the market.

If at all possible handle different models to see what works for you. If it's still the Diesel - go for it. But don't be disappointed if something else actually fills the bill. You'll be happier with a tool that works rather than a tool that looks cool and won't get your jobs done. You'll look smarter, too.
 
Tirod3 is dead on the nail there as far as choosing features and overall feel of the tool rather than just a brand name. That being said, I have a Gerber Diesel as well as numerous other makes and models and I can honestly say that the Diesel has done just fine for me. I don't like the knife blade on it, but as most folks here do, I carry at least one or two other folders as well as the multi-tool, so the blade doesn't really matter to me. I've had good experiences with Leatherman, SOG, Victorinox, Gerber, Bear, etc.., so if you can get your hands on some models first rather than blindly buying them off the internet then you'll probably find the right tool before you have to buy 10 or 15 like I've done!
 
Yes, hold them in your hand if you can first, you'll have a better understanding of the "feel." Walmart has several models so you can try/feel to get your hands on. When checking them out, check out all the blades and accessories and find out which one best suits your needs and "feels" right.

The Diesel is nice and that "flip" open action is nice but do you want a "cool" tool or a long lasting/well made one? I don't have a Diesel, and many have said they last but after feeling them all, I wasn't impressed with it (diesel). To much plastic for me, and that nose sticks out when closed, I don't think my pockets would like that. Leatherman is well made and most compact to me, swisstool best overall made (finish/never rust), sog is like a tank, well made and the strongest pliers of em all IMO.

Each multitool/jaws/handles open wider/narrower than others, or have more/less "needle" nose, that may be important for you, all different. And if your still "stuck" theirs nothing wrong with having several multitools! Most of us do..
 
Ok, the tasks that I will do is mainly in the line of Engineering like fixing things, maybe a bit of prying, definietly cutting and using of the twiszer!
 
I've tried many many multi-tools from various makers and the one I always come back to is my Gerber Pro-Scout.

I have been considering the Diesel as a replacement to the Pro-Scout but it lacks the jig-saw blade coupler.
Otherwise it looks nearly ideal.

Good luck,
Allen.
 
Gerber, Leatherman, and SOG all make great multitools. The choosing begins when you have a buget and list of feature that you want. The SOG and Gerbers open at about the same speed but its a lot harder to open a Leatherman unless you pull off some balisonh-ish technique.
 
Tirod3 is dead on the nail there as far as choosing features and overall feel of the tool rather than just a brand name. That being said, I have a Gerber Diesel as well as numerous other makes and models and I can honestly say that the Diesel has done just fine for me. I don't like the knife blade on it, but as most folks here do, I carry at least one or two other folders as well as the multi-tool, so the blade doesn't really matter to me. I've had good experiences with Leatherman, SOG, Victorinox, Gerber, Bear, etc.., so if you can get your hands on some models first rather than blindly buying them off the internet then you'll probably find the right tool before you have to buy 10 or 15 like I've done!

Actually, I think you might be better off buying (more or less) blindly until you have what suits you best. If you aren't much interested in the subject, almost any reputable make of multitool on the market will do and you might as well buy based on price.

Fact is, there isn't much functional difference among them. Everyone I know who uses a multitool regularly on the job, carries whatever the company issued or was on sale, and I mean every one. Preferences come from hobbyists, perfectionists and neurotics (I myself am one or more of the above :) ).

Fondling a multitool at the point of sale doesn't tell you enough about long term compatibility. That could take weeks, if not months, of use. If you decide that the Gerberman Soginox doesn't have quite the right heft, move on to another and sell off the loser. Repeat, as necessary. If you buy right, there won't be much money lost, and you will be more likely to find a perfect fit.
 
I guess I would consider myself a "Fondler" I like to feel my tools before I buy them. I am a carpenter of over 17 years so I've had to get and use a lot of tools.
Though it is true the real test is use over time, I have found many brands/makes, known and unknown didn't past the test of the initial hold, Some had bad balance or were lose or had to much sideway play or really felt "cheap!" and those things you can't tell from a picture, and they don't say that in their product description. People have different hands and needs and likes and to be able to see it first hand in your own hand I have found works well as the first initial test.
 
I guess I would consider myself a "Fondler" I like to feel my tools before I buy them. I am a carpenter of over 17 years so I've had to get and use a lot of tools.
Though it is true the real test is use over time, I have found many brands/makes, known and unknown didn't past the test of the initial hold, Some had bad balance or were lose or had to much sideway play or really felt "cheap!" and those things you can't tell from a picture, and they don't say that in their product description. People have different hands and needs and likes and to be able to see it first hand in your own hand I have found works well as the first initial test.

To my list of demanding consumers I should have included "professionals," those in the trades who actually know what they need. Experience always trumps opinion. But I will stand by my main points: among the top multitool makes, any of them will do the job, and it is possible to learn enough about them on internet forums to make a good choice.

Years ago, in another life while working as a mechanic, I got to know hand tools pretty well. Definitely, some are better than others, but except for those that bend or break, they all function. How they balance, handle etc. could make a difference long term, but since the only thing multitools really offer is convenience, all those other things become secondary. Surely, nobody would actually prefer a multitool implement over any dedicated tool, and that's before we even get into quality issues (there are exceptiions to this; my wife prefers the scissors on her SAK over any of her clippers for toenail trimming.)

There are subjective reasons why someone would choose one multitool over another, and by all means, try them out, if possible. But these days it is decreasingly possible. I live in a large city with major retail outlets, and still there are very few stores that showcase multitools for comparison. Even those that have an assortment usually rack them packaged in blister packs, so you can look but not really touch.

Some, like Lowe's, used to have quality knives and multitools, but no longer. SOG is available nowhere, and I never handled a Swisstool until it got here by UPS. But in that case, thanks to research done on this forum, there were no surprises.

Buying by internet is not completely blind. From looking through these forums it is possible to draw fairly accurate opinions of available offerings. There is a wealth of knowledge here. About ten years ago I started doing just that and never had cause to regret any buying decisiion that resulted.
 
Once again I must say znapschatz; Very well said! I completely agree with you on all points.

....and I like that Gerberman Soginox reference! :D

~Bob
 
I am when it comes to Swiss Army KNIVES.
But I'm still searching for the perfect multi-tool.
The SwissTool was not it.:(

Allen,

Hm. Earlier last year I got a Swisstool at a blowout price, and was curious how it compared to other multitools. It is very well designed and made. I have a feeling that had this been my first multitool, all would have been just fine. However, O/C personality that I am, after several months of EDC, I have come to a similar conclusion as yours.

I find the blunt pliers jaws not as versatile as the Leatherman needlenose and don't open wide enough. Within a month, it became an issue three times, never in 10 years with Leatherman. In addition, the screwdrivers are slippy, and although the implements don't clump when coming out, sometimes I find them hard to access by fingernail, especially in cold weather. Stuff like that. I am aware that Leathermen have their shortcomings, too, but they apparently mean less to me.

I'd be interested in your evaluation.
 
Yeah, you're right on the money about the pliers...they're too blunt and they don't have a wide enough bite.
But what made me trade away the SwissTool was the weight and the bulk.
I found myself always leaving it in the truck because it was just too heavy and bulky to carry on my belt.
Now mind you I have carried a Leatherman SuperTool 200 for years and never had that problem.
Even though they are comparable, for whatever reason the SwissTool just does not carry as well.
And I also agree with you on the tool access...sometimes it was difficult to get the right tool out with my thumbnails (my old style Leatherman Wave has the same problem, but my Gerber Pro-Scout is very easy to access the tools).
I also missed the "flick of the wrist" pliers deployment that I was so accustomed to with my Gerber.
 
I currently have a Leatherman Tool and find it ok, with the features and all. Just wanted to get another one for rough use.
 
I am when it comes to Swiss Army KNIVES.
But I'm still searching for the perfect multi-tool.
The SwissTool was not it.:(

The only models I have are the Swisstool, Swisstool Spirit, and a SOG Powerlock. Far and away the SOG has the best pliers, but the tools are, at best, second rate IMHO. The Swisstool and the Spirit have, again IMHO, far better tools and good pliers for my uses.

I have never had a Leatherman, but I hope to fix that soon with the new Charge AL. I'm getting it to play with and compare to the Vics and SOG. With it's better blade steel and OH openning, I hope it becomes my favorite...time will tell.
:)
 
Be sure to post a comparison/review for your friends here on the forums.:thumbup:
 
I've has my Gerber multi plier for somewhere around 10 years now, and it has seved me well. This is the original gerber before they had the locking blades or anything. The fine edge blade is "good enough" for a multi tool, but the serrated blade is actually fairly decent, as is the file. All the screw drivers have seen lots of use, and the pliers themselves have probably been abused more than any mutli-plier should have! Great tool, I definately have no regrets going with this as apposed to the leatherman, although I've heard the newer gerbers aren't so great...

Oh yeah, and stay away from their knives, I had the entire framelock arm break off on my paraframe II!!
 
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