German Eye Brand Stag?

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Hi all,

I've been casually looking for a stag handled, carbon steel stockman for a little while. While there hasn't been a huge assortment to choose from, the Eye Brand has recently caught my attention. This one, specifically. I'm not terribly concerned about perfect fit and finish, but am a bit on blade wobble. Does anyone have an opinion on Eye Brand's current offerings?
 
Getahl, my experience is that Eye Brand knives ordered over the net can be a crap shoot.

The stag may or may not be well matched or nicely figured...and...the fit and finish (including blade play) may or may not be up to snuff.

I think that short of asking the vendor to check for you, you kind of have to take your chances.
 
Hmmm, that's what I was afraid of. In that case, do you have any recommendations in the aforementioned combination. I know GEC makes (made?) one in burnt stag a while back, but I'm sure it's a boat anchor. I'm really looking for something around 3-1/4 to 3-1/2. The lighter the better :)
 
My experience mirrors Blues'. I have a 4.25" stockman, and I also had the 3.5" one that you're looking one. The bigger one has excellent matching stag, and doesn't have wobble on any of its blades. The smaller one had mismatched stag, and a wobbly main blade.
 
Hmmm, that's what I was afraid of. In that case, do you have any recommendations in the aforementioned combination. I know GEC makes (made?) one in burnt stag a while back, but I'm sure it's a boat anchor. I'm really looking for something around 3-1/4 to 3-1/2. The lighter the better :)

I'm sure some of the folks on the forum will be able to help you.

My own recent experience was a laugher. I had a coupon for amazon.com to use toward a purchase so I actually ordered that very knife you posted to add a small stockman to my lineup. (My smallest production stockman knives were the Case 6318 and 3318 and more recently added a Buck "Cadet" that 300Bucks kindly sent me.)

Well, in this instance the third party vendor, while offering an excellent price, actually sent me the round bolstered stainless steel version (rather than the square bolstered, carbon steel version ordered). Had the quality of the stag and fit/finish (including blade play) been up to par I might have kept it. But, I returned it despite the unbeatable price it had been offered at.

Long way of saying you just never know if you're gonna get lucky or not.

Now, if it doesn't have to be stag...;)
 
Getahl,

I don't own one but have you looked at Northwoods Knives?
They have a 3 1/4" stockman with D2 steel and they are made in America.
Maybe someone here can tell you about Northwoods quality.

http://northwoodsknives.com/northwoods-knives/northwoods-medium-stockman-/-stag/prod_1115.html

Well, if the '08 BFC knife was an indication of Northwoods, many had complaints about them, IIRC. It was that model, but with 1095 blade, plus the numbering, etching, etc.

I agree with "Blues" in that if you don't have to have stag, then there are many other choices & at a similar price point. For example, I believe Queen makes a Stockman around that size & it has D2 blades, but maple bone, I believe.

I've only had 2 Queens, but those 2's F&F are great (1 is in stag, too, but it's a 4" Stockman).

I haven't looked, but I'm surprised that Case doesn't have a med. Stockman in stag or red stag. Their F&F is excellent, too.
 
I haven't looked, but I'm surprised that Case doesn't have a med. Stockman in stag or red stag. Their F&F is excellent, too.

Don't know anything (myself) about these but they may be worth a look.

And these search results as well.
 
I have a 350 DS and the stag is incredible. The master blade has play, but not enough to bother me. Other than the slight blade play F/F is great. I don't know what the Germans use for steel, but it takes on a nice blue/gray hue.

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It's all part of the slip joint lottery, but when you get a good EB stockman it really is pretty good. Not sambar, but quality stag nonetheless.

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Blues,
Agreed on Case's F&F. The other reason I was asking about Eye Brand is because I already have six Case knives (including a large, stainless stockman in stag, and a medium amber bone in CV, with the pen blade). I've found that I really like stag on a handle, and do like carbon steel quite a bit. If they offered something like I'm looking for, I'd pick it up in a heartbeat.

Paul,
I haven't actually looked at Northwoods yet, so I'll check out there site. Thanks for the tip :)

I don't have to have stag knives, it's more of a "I would like to have a carbon stag knife". It's just an Eye-dea (ba dump bump) I've been kicking around.
 
There seem to be many here on BF who tend to look down on eBay but, in my experience, I've had pretty good luck when purchasing knives (especially stag-handled) on eBay. I have several stag stockman knives, most of which I bought there. In my experience, it's fairly easy to find a seller on eBay whose willing to cherry-pick a specific knife, and even send you additional pics of that exact knife, so that you can get a better look at it. There are lots of the Eye Brand stag stockman knives listed on eBay. I have one of the 425DS (BIG stockman at 4.25") which I bought there, and the quality was fine. Stag looks great, and it didn't have any issues with blade play. Just ask the seller if they're willing to open one up to make sure it's up to your standards. Just ask 'em, there's nothing to lose in doing so. If they're not willing, don't waste any time (or money) with 'em. Also, it's pretty easy to find 'em at lower prices on eBay (at least occasionally). When I bought my 425DS a couple of years ago, I think the price I paid for it was in the mid - high $40s.

Additional possibilities:

1. The Northwoods knives w/D2 blades are made by Queen, with exactly the same hardware, blade steel, etc. Fit & finish are therefore comparable (exactly) to Queen's own line (I also have one of these in stag; it's identical to a Queen 'Cattle King' I have in the Amber Stag Bone). The only real knock I've heard against them is that the Queen D2 blades frequently come with somewhat mediocre edge grinds (obtuse), and the D2 can be stubborn to re-sharpen to your liking. However, if you are comfortable with your sharpening & re-profiling skills, the D2 is FANTASTIC once you get the edge on it.

2. Another brand you might look into is Bulldog. I have one of their 1985 Cattle King Stag Stockman knives, and it's quite nice (although this particular one is expensive compared to Eye Brand, because it's one of their 'First Generation' collectables). I believe they do have more recent versions at prices comparable to Eye Brand, however.
 
Eye Brand, Bulldog, and the older Indian Head are all made at Olbertz. So any are good choices. Agree with all that if you are particular about stag you need to email the seller to see if he can meet your expectations.

Other than the Eye Brand, here are a couple of sub-4" models.
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There are some nice ones a shade larger.
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There are also some sowbelly models. Also, bone slabs will open up the possibilities as well.

Mike Latham
CollectorKnives.Net
 
Getahl,

I don't own one but have you looked at Northwoods Knives?
They have a 3 1/4" stockman with D2 steel and they are made in America.
Maybe someone here can tell you about Northwoods quality.

http://northwoodsknives.com/northwoods-knives/northwoods-medium-stockman-/-stag/prod_1115.html

Northwoods makes a nice knife as long as it's perfect right out of the box and you never need customer service. I sent my Northwoods 2008 Bladeforums.com traditional forum stockman back for replacement scales in early May (2nd time since we got them back in January, 2009). I'm still waiting for my knife. All calls and e-mails to Northwoods are ignored. I've managed to get a live person on the phone and they claim they're waiting on parts. 24 weeks for two tiny pieces of stag?!?!?! I've had this knife in my possession for 7 days out of the 304 days I've owned it.

Here's a picture of the knife when I sent it off in May. That is some of the most mismatched, ugly stag I've ever seen. The first time I sent it in for burnt blade tips, a blade wobble and horrible fit and finish. Worst $100+ I've spent.
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Getahl,

The finest consistency of old gnarley type popcorn Stag scales I've seen on classic slipjoint patterns is on the older(1970's and prior years) Henckels knives.. The Stags bark on those knives go out in every direction including the bolsters and are not ground off like so many other makers do. They also have good carbon steel, great fit and finish and are crafted tight and solid. If you check out the secondary market you'll see what I mean and you won't be disappointed.

Perhaps Mike Roebuck will stop in here and show some his many Henckels samplings for an example of what I mean. But you could also check out the bay with a quick search as well.


Anthony
 
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Boker and Hen & Rooster are two more companies that make a stockman with stag and carbon steel blades.
 
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I've seen the Bokers, and have considered them, but have heard they're of inconsistent quality. There is a Bass Pro Shop that is (relatively) near me, and they carry Boker slippies, if memory serves.

Henckels is a brand I hadn't considered. Aren't they solely in the kitchen cutlery business nowadays? A quick search on AAPK just proved me wrong haha. I'll keep and eye out on them, and on Bull Dog. Thanks!
 
Henckels is a brand I hadn't considered. Aren't they solely in the kitchen cutlery business nowadays? A quick search on AAPK just proved me wrong haha. I'll keep and eye out on them

IIRC Henckels slipjoints are being made these days by Boker.
 
IIRC Henckels slipjoints are being made these days by Boker.

My original post recommends and states, 'Henckels slipjoint patterns produced 1970's and prior years'. Not the ones preceding that.

Anthony
 
most early german stag was mismatched on purpose, including 70 & 80s pumas.this was done as a grip factor with more figured scales to fit fingers & THE less figured stag to fit in palm, for a right handed person.i have owned close to 100 or more & never expected the stag to match.i may have missed on which side went where but sold all my collection long ago.ditto to Obsessed with Edges on queens d2. the knives are dull as a brick but when sharpened the d2 rates close to gec 1095 carbon in edge durability.having bought 5 queens in 4 weeks i'm glad i have motorized equipment to get bevels good, by hand on diamonds would take many minutes.
 
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