German Eye Knives

Munk, thanks for the info.
THEAVENGER is right, the Carl Schlieper (Eye Brand) brand is a brand name which is not owned any more by the original (founding) company.
This is quite common in the cutlery industry, e.g. Schatt & Morgan, Robeson or many famous Sheffield companies are not in business any more, and their names are owned as brand names by different companies.
 
I have an older sodbuster and the new one we discussed. The newer one has the Carl logo on the blade..printed

Little Knife, are these still good knives? Should I throw them into a bucket?

munk
 
Munk, I am in no way expert of any knife brand.
I own only one Carl Schlieper knife, and it was definitely produced during the last several years, because it looks exactly like the catalog pictures in the most recent knife catalogs.
My stockman also has the "Carl Schlieper, Hammered Forged, Solingen Germany + the Eye image" etched on the master blade. I think this is a standard feature of all the Eye brand knives.
The newest Eye brand knives might have less collector value than the oldest ("original") ones, but I doubt they have less (or significantly less) user value.

As I know, the old Solingen factories used to great extent the out-factory work of many individual small masters, who were manufacturing the different parts (scales, liners etc. of the knives). I dont know if this system still existed in post WW2 Germany, or still exists now.
I also doubt there is a decline in the quality of the steel, brass, nickel silver and handle materials used today, compared to the ones used at the time of the original Carl Schlieper factory.
I also doubt that the assembly quality, the heat treatment, the strength of the springs, pivots, pins, liners, scales or bolsters in our knives are significantly lesser, than the one of those times.
Sodbusters were never the high end products of the cutlery industry, but they were produced to be strong, dependable folders. Sodbusters are originally a German pattern, so I doubt that a German factory would produce a poor quality sodbuster.
Many German knives might look uglier than some pleasing American ones (right now I think about the Case knives of the last 10 years), but still can be of much greater user value.

German Eye knives are not of the same quality in terms of fit & finish as some of the Queen, Schatt & Morgan or Moore Maker knives, but I am sure they are as strong if not stronger than any of the afore mentioned ones.
I have a Queen yellow handled (i.e. a user) stockman, a nice Schatt & Morgan stockman, a nice Moore Maker stockman, and stockmans from Schrade (Old Timer), Camillus, Colonial and Case besides my Eye brand one.
The Schatt & Morgan is the nicest one, but the German Eye is the strongest.
As an overall design + user quality + aesthetics wise the Schatt & Morgan and the Moore Maker are on the top, the German Eye and the Camillus are close seconds.
Considering the price effectiveness, the winners are clearly the Camillus and the Schrade Old Timer.
The Colonial is the cheapest and ugliest, but very comfortable and of better user quality than the Case, which I consider an expensive display knife only.
Maybe I had some bad luck with Case, but all 3 knives I have owned from them, had poor fit & finish, oddly positioned blades (looking like partially closed when fully opened), weak springs and spacers, and were quite expensive. Maybe I have too high expectations.

In Europe German still means "quality".
Here on BFC there are many folks, who like very much the Bulldog Brand, the current Hen & Rooster
(which are definitely of lesser quality, than the H & R of the A.G. Russell or the older eras) slipjoints. Steve Dick (the editor of Tactical Knives and the author of the book "The working folding knife") thinks highly about the Buck Creek stockman knives.
All these brands are produced by the same German company, have the same "Solingen steels" (whatever they mean). BTW the stainless "Solingen Steel" IMHO is a better user steel than e.g. the "TruSharp" Case uses in their stainless knives.
The Big Bend Saddlery shop in Texas sells only two brands of working slipjoints: one is the Moore Maker (also from Texas) and the other is ... the Eye brand.
http://www.bigbendsaddlery.com/eknives.html

I think all this speaks a little bit about the quality of those Eye brand knives.

In my opinion your knives are indeed GOOD. They are first and foremost KNIVES, and to lesser extent collector or "display/show off" items. They do ALL what a knife has to do, which is not the case for many of the above mentioned Case knives for example.
So if I was you, I would not throw them in a bucket, but would carry and use them.
 
Your information and opinion mean something to me, and that you'd take the time to teach. I'm excited to be learning again, to increase my knowledge of the world. A knife is the fundamental tool, perhaps the first after hammer or club. I can't think of anything more important or essential than understanding this.

Thanks Littleknife.

munk
 
Munk, thanks for the compliments, but I do not deserve them. My knowledge about knives is very limited, and most what I have learned, I learned it here on the Forums.
These thoughts were my personal opinions, in no way should be they accepted as "teaching".
Bernard Levine for example can teach because of his immense knowledge and experience.
Right now I carry my Eye brand stockman. While I feel I should have got some more finish for the money I paid for it, in general, I like it.
I think it is a fine quality tool, looks quite nice too, and feels very comfortable in my hand.
I hope, your Eye brand knives will serve you too.

P.S.: Happy Easter!
 
I miss great carbon steel. The sodbuster I own broke once in the former owner's hand. He couldn't believe it. The factory could not believe it. They were stunned. Put a new blade on it.

You know, with firearms there is a point past which paying more money does not provide better accuracy or use. I suspect the same is true for knives. The Eye brands are the finest pocket knives I've owned, and it is hard to make a case spending more.

I am curious what participation here will do to me. Years ago I laughed when someone suggested I might own many firearms.

famous last laugh,

munk
Do you know what kind of steel they used back in the sixties. I have a Jim Bowie large stockman that takes a good edge .I was just wondering what kind of carbon steel it is
 
Do you know what kind of steel they used back in the sixties. I have a Jim Bowie large stockman that takes a good edge .I was just wondering what kind of carbon steel it is
Fwiw….this thread is 22 years old and the OP hasn’t posted for the last 15 years. Might not get a response from him.
 
Do you know what kind of steel they used back in the sixties. I have a Jim Bowie large stockman that takes a good edge .I was just wondering what kind of carbon steel it is

This is a guess, but it would be close to 1095 or O-1. Any time I've asked an old time company that question, 95% of the time that's been their answer. In America, it favors 1095. In Europe O-1. There simply wasn't much choice in steels, and the need or want wasn't there.
 
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