Get off my foot!

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Wileen

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It's happen to me a couple of times, when sparring, the other person takes advantage of my delicate foot
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, he comes in and steps on my foot, leaving me to try to move back but can't
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I don't know who else does it out there, It's my fault for leaving my foot open for attack! I find that it's pretty useful when done correctly.
 
Willeen,

Yes, a pain in the foot. I had that done to me. He did it once, I tried to step back and fell on my butt. He did it again, this time with a push, and I feel again. Light bulb went off in my head. He's doing it on purpose. Damn good technique if one's got the timing.

sing

AKTI #A00356
 
Stepping on their foot is a great tactic. I use it at least once every boxing match/sparring session that I have. Evading/Countering the foot step can be done two different ways. First, just hit them, if they have to retreat, then they won't be able to keep pinning your foot. Or, take a look at the Naihanti kata from Issin Ryu Karate. There is a movement where your foot scoops backwards and upwards towards your other leg that allows you to free it rather expediantly.

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SFC

"Is it easier to fight them or to kill them?"
 
Hi,

Really like this move.... very basic and therefore less things can go wrong. I basically step on the far foot(if you step on the front foot, he can still widen his base with the rear foot... and make it a little tougher to apply) and push. I constantly frustrate my "hubud partners" with this(hee, hee...
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)... I am careful to release the foot pin if my opponent goes to the ground... so he doesn't get his ankle tweaked.

~Kev
 
That is a great lower limb immbolization. Traps and pins the foot keeping the opponet from evading or retreating. Also with a little forward pressure you can cause him to fall backwards and break the ankle. Or once the foot has been pinned, a little sticky leg comes into play.

You can bump the inner knee outward and colapse your oponnet, then take advantage of him struggling to regain their balance.

I like this technique because you set them up with your hands and while they're defending the high line, slip in and simply step on their foot. Watch their reaction and surprise as they look at you for doing this

A sneaky but absolutley effective technique, and one of my favorites. Have used this on a many of occasions to score with. Try it you like it.

Peace Out......


 
Don Rearic once showed me a tactic where you can step on someone's foot; when they step back and "hyper extend" their knee you can kick it out with your instep or other lowline kick.

Jason
 
I can learn how to counter attack when it happens, but I'd have to react rather quickly. I remember how confident they were b/c they knew it was going to be a surprise to you. They step/pin the foot and strike at the same time!
So, if you know your opponent uses this technique, how do you adjust your footwork?

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Willeen a foot trap can work both ways. If your trapped you can actually move, either way if the person is not willing to let the trap go, he's trapped too.

Fenris, sounds like you learned a kick from Silat.
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I remember the first time that happened to me. I was like "Whoa, wait a minute! I can't move" Pretty nifty and subtle when done right. Sometimes when I do catch it then I oblique kick them in the shin with my free foot.
 
At this moment I'm wearing a pair of black cowboy boots with the tips of the toes all dented in. I have a friend who whenever we get together, it turns into somekind of sparring session... our girlfriends are waiting in the car, we have to do hubud-lubud for 10 minutes in the parkinglot with the car running, we both have crunched shoes.

Kelly Worden uses these "base disrupions" quite a bit in his tapes. It is a very good tactic. Give someone a shove and you can easily sprain the ankle, combined with other lowline pressure can cause anatomical damage and/or loss of balance.

I remember the old Popeye cartoons where Bluto would stand on Popeye's feet and drill him like a fly-bag, or better yet, one of those inflatable bowling-pin-shaped clown punching dummies we had as children....
 
This is a whole area of training in the Kali Empty hand art of John LaCoste. Lots of ways to "foot trap." Lots of ways to use it to lead into a takedown. Hard to describe. Steve Grody's videos "Kali Empty Hands" has a section on it. Even sport boxers use it a lot when in a "mismatched" stance. That's one of the things that makes fighting a southpaw in the ring so difficult.

Keith

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Attitude Is Everything!
 
I have to agree with Killerman. I have been caught with this technique on several occasions and one of the counters is to work on having a strong base and be ready to take a couple shots.

Like Killerman said hit the person while maintaining your base and be ready to go "Toe to Toe" so to speak. If you are unarmed, covering the head and crashing forward with the elbows, using the bob and weave or hooking combinations to the body, head and if you can pull it off to the legs (Got it done accidentally on two occasions).

Having good sensitivity and reaction time is important also because you can say here it comes and brace yourself.

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Call Me Al
 
You guys have pretty much said it all. I love foot traps, sweeps, all types of low line attacks.

The only thing that I would add is that trapping the opponent's foot is also extremely useful when blade sparring, especially if your opponent fights linearly-ie., moves backward away from your attacks rather than triangling, pivoting, circling, etc.. Players who evade by backing up often don't know what the hell to do once you've trapped their foot, and they are easy prey at that point.

How do you avoid foot traps, sweeps, and other low line attacks? Practice. You and your training partners should constantly throw low line attacks at eachother while sparring. This forces each of you to stay light on your feet, move, and use your peripheral vision to detect and avoid these types of attacks. You'll develop the skills very quickly, I promise you.

Have fun!

Mario

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Gaucho

Tuvo muy mala suerte...se callo en mi cuchillo.


 
I agree with all. This is a great technique.

I've always had the best results when my partner is fixated on an incoming hand technique. Often I'll exaggerate the movement so they think to themselves, "I see it coming"....... then step on the foot to shift their concentration, then throw the hand (off timing).

It also works great when sparring with TKD stylists that tap their lead foot (shifting weight between front leg and rear) in time. It doesn't take much to disrupt their tempo.




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Clay
www.balisongxtreme.com

 
Hi every one i have got Grody;s Kali empty hand tapes 1-2-3, which i thought were exellant - but could any one tell me if he did any more tapes, and what they are
thanks a lot BUMTY
 
Bumpty,

Start a new Thead on it Dude! The one person who might have them and be willing to sell them might not come in this Thread. Or, simply the information you seek.

Just start a new Thread altogether and good luck!
 
I think one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that, if you go to step on your opponents foot, if you don't do it properly, he can slide his foot back and pull your front foot along for the ride, which you won't enjoy. I've personally worked in if I am close enough to step on his foot, I try to put my foot on the inside of his and sweep outward. IMHO.

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Chad
Full Contact Stickfighting Hawaii
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When me and a friend(a big, tough, sambo dude) go at it, I always use it. I've used it in a real fight, and it worked out well. Practicing footwork(like in boxing) makes it easy to counter.

It's kinda wierd seeing so many people use this "tactic", as it's something I've just sorta picked up on the street.
 
I must say that a lot of good opinions have been expressed on this topic.
My favorite applications of the foot stall have come from Kuntao Silat. The majority of the more brutal throws use the footstall as one it's chief methods of destruction. The damage tends to be quite extensive and quite severe. When it has to be decisive, this is good stuff to use.
 
I like the simple step on the foot/shove trap as well. It´s a nice technique, those foot traps are really useful. They can be especially nice if someone is argueing with you, shouting and coming in your face (that bullying nose-to-nose stuff), but kinda low intensity agression. While letting them shout, you can set them up with foot traps (your foot behind his foot etc), shove them away and disrupt their agressive behaviour without really hurting them. Or, when you sense it´s going to get serious, execute one of the silat throws/manipulations, they often lead to serious knee and ankle injuries which probably stop the fight.
In Leung Ting Wing Tsun, foot traps are very often used, I learned them from that style.

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