Gibeon Meteorite Damascus Billets

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hello i might be getting these in a trade just trying to feel out the market and wondering if you guys could help put a value on them my buddy has the list of what metals and every thing thats in them all i know it has Gibeon Meteorite mixed in,and they are 15.5 in. long and 4.5 in. wide. if you need more info i email my buddy back. thanks for the help

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Also, you need to know not just what materials are in them, but in what proportions. Gibeon meteorite is basically iron and nickel, so if there's too much of it in there it can severely reduce the hardenability.

-d
 
Any effect for apperance sake will be lost , and it certainly won't add to any features for cutting. Those sure look like billkets from Alabama Damascus or Brad Vice the man that makes it. Who else is making such big bars? Frank
 
I'm guessing Alabama damascus by Brad Vise. The meteorite acts like 203E in the mix. That should make good general purpose blades.
 
There isn't anything that you can see that that is different. I have used Damascus made with meteorite included. I believe it was 8%. Brad Vice does make good Damascus. I'm talking about an addition that is only an addition, and nothing more. Frank
 
Frank Niro said:
There isn't anything that you can see that that is different.
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There sure is something different Frank! You must've forgotten about the extra dollar bills from the customers ;)

In all seriousness though, the only thing that meteorite adds to a damascus mix is difficulty in forging and the fact that you've got something older than the earth itself in your blade. Some folks dig on that though...

-d
 
I have heard of folks using the "shavings" from meteorites in damascus strictly for the wow factor. However, using meteorite slices that have not been heated in the forge and had the natural pattern destroyed for fittings or bolster is cool looking.:thumbup:;)
 
jdm61 said:
I have heard of folks using the "shavings" from meteorites in damascus strictly for the wow factor. However, using meteorite slices that have not been heated in the forge and had the natural pattern destroyed for fittings or bolster is cool looking.:thumbup:;)
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I know folks who use slices in damascus as well...it's apparently very tricky since meteorite tends to crumble....

-d
 
I've used slices from the Gibeon for handle slabs. I had the guy cut them very thing, about 1/8th" so I'd have room to countersink and thread. This way the pattern, which is something like Widmanstatton (I know, that's a poor effort at spelling it I'm sure) is
highly visible. I also have several pounds of the "powder" or "shavings" from his bandsaw and cut-off saw. The band saw stuff is just oily, but the cut-off stuff is filthy, full of fibers from the wheel, etc. I spent weeks getting it cleaned up enough to use, and now it just sits on the shelf. Not sure what to do with it. True, the Gibeon is something like 4 billion years old, pretty good wow factor. But I can barely comprehend a 2,000 year old arrowhead, to me that's a real wow factor! But 4 billion years old? Well, that's pretty old I guess in the scheme of things. Expensive filler to!
Robert
 
I have been told that when you heat the stuff up to forging or welding temps, you lose the pattern, which makes sense. I know that nickel doesn't "migrate" like carbon per se, but I have also been told that if you forge wrought iron too much, you lose the cool inclusions. No point in paying top dollar for material if you are going to destroy what makes it visually interesting.
 
i just talked to my buddy and asked for the list of materials he is looking though his files but he said the thickness is written in the billet from looking at the pic the one is 0.24, then 0.22, then .135
 
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