Gingrich Tactical Delta lock

Comeuppance said:
BladeHQ's current picture does not have a typo.

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But... Even still, a 3.29 inch-bladed folder that weighs in at a Medford-esque 7.29oz coupled with with pretty underwhelming material choices for the price range... And it's ugly. All for only $225!

And who doesn't want a huge, awkward, milled-out advertisement for the lock incorporated into their knife?

This thing is just a big fatted cow that has been branded, similarly most useful when taken apart for parts and materials.
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Fatted calf, surely? ;)
 
When you take a traditional lock back and add more parts like Andrew Demko's Tri-Ad lock it makes it stronger, albeit a little more difficult to release than a normal lock. In that case I think it's a good trade-off because it's innovative and adds more than it takes. This lock seems to add more complexity without getting much, although it does seem like it'd give more points for it to fail or get fouled.

In addition it looks like the handle's abnormally fat, and while CTS-BD1 steel is a good budget choice for simple, inexpensive knives, but when I can get a Kershaw liner lock flipper with M390 for $70 delivered, this knife seems excessively priced.

By the way, I LOVE this new Kershaw. M390 for $70? That's crazy!
 
If it used BD1N it wouldn't be an awful choice, but this is over $200 for a straight up budget steel. Marginally better than AUS-8.
 
So you replace one point of failure with four points of failure? So instead of one chance to screw up the lock geometry, the manufacturer gets four chances to screw it up? Doesn’t seem like a good idea to me. Adding more points of failure isn’t the same as adding redundancy.

Now instead of a fixed point (the stop pin, a very unlikely point of failure) and a moving point (the lock interface, where most of the problems lie), you now design a lock where there are multiple moving interfaces which all have to function properly for a solid lockup.

Not feeling it.
 
DrFish said:
So you replace one point of failure with four points of failure? So instead of one chance to screw up the lock geometry, the manufacturer gets four chances to screw it up? Doesn’t seem like a good idea to me. Adding more points of failure isn’t the same as adding redundancy.

Now instead of a fixed point (the stop pin, a very unlikely point of failure) and a moving point (the lock interface, where most of the problems lie), you now design a lock where there are multiple moving interfaces which all have to function properly for a solid lockup.

Not feeling it.
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100% agree. I'd love to see one in person, though.
 
Comeuppance said:
And who doesn't want a huge, awkward, milled-out advertisement for the lock incorporated into their knife?
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Designing the lock: 5 years of investment and collaborations

Designing the typography: 5 seconds in Microsoft Word

All too common. And it's too bad cause I like the overall shape and texturing of this knife a lot.
 
skmo said:
By the way, I LOVE this new Kershaw. M390 for $70? That's crazy!
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What knife is this and where? If it's a damn Chive, or some other, tiny, unusable crapola I'm putting you on "ignore" forever.
 
AntDog said:
What knife is this and where? If it's a damn Chive, or some other, tiny, unusable crapola I'm putting you on "ignore" forever.
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Only Kershaw KAIs in M390 I can think of currently are the Link and Dividend, which are both about $80ish at street pricing.
 
vanadium said:
I wonder what the knife will say in reality.
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It says "delta."

I got one. I am really trying to figure this thing out. Using it feels exactly like any other liner lock. Lockup feels solid with no blade play. The big "V" with the writing on it seems to serve no purpose (it doesn't seem to ever make contact with anything).

I think I'm just going to take it apart. When I do, I'll post pictures.

Also, it seems designed to shred pockets. :)
 
I think it makes contact behind the scales in some notches in the blade tang, but you wouldn’t be able to see it in normal operation.
 
SpySmasher said:
It says "delta."

I got one. I am really trying to figure this thing out. Using it feels exactly like any other liner lock. Lockup feels solid with no blade play. The big "V" with the writing on it seems to serve no purpose (it doesn't seem to ever make contact with anything).

I think I'm just going to take it apart. When I do, I'll post pictures.

Also, it seems designed to shred pockets. :)
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Does it feel like a built-up spoon for a disabled person? That's what the handle reminded me of at first glance. The bizarre proportions were enough to turn me off of it, before the price tag or steel.
 
SpySmasher said:
The big "V" with the writing on it seems to serve no purpose
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I was feeling certain that the "V" cutout/insert would be the mechanism for transferring closing-force from the blade into the handle when locked, something like this:

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But if I'm right, you should see the insert (blue) part of the V become more recessed into the handle when the lock engages.

(I know I'm showing a traditional liner/frame lock style engagement with the tang in this diagram, but it's only to illustrate the idea mentioned.)

I searched for the patent application but came up empty. It's possible that it just hasn't been published yet. There can be a long delay.
 
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