Glass Breaker on RC-3MIL

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As far as I can tell from the ESEE web site the differences between the RC-3MIL (and now the ESEE-3MIL) and the other RC-3 models are:
1) Black blade with Canvas Micarta handle and black oxide handle screws.
2) Sharpened Glass Breaker Pommel.
3) (Obviously) The Blade name etch.
Those are the differences in the knife, the other differences are green molded sheath, and MOLLE back always included. But here I'm not talking about the accessories, just the knife.

When I was deciding which RC-3 to get, I quickly decided (after reading lots of threads here) that I wanted canvas micarta. This narrowed the choices down to the Desert Tan 'regular' model or the 'military' model. I think that the DT RC-3 is a fantastic looking knife, but for some reason the shiny handle screws just didn't appeal to me. This is absolutely just a personal preference that has everything to do with looking at the knife and nothing to do with the actual use of the knife.

This brings us to the other difference in the 3MIL, the sharpened pommel. I really don't think I will ever have need to use this feature. I bought the knife for outdoor 'backwoods' use. (And I can't legally carry it in the city, so when it's in the car it has to be in the trunk...) I was a little concerned that this 'sharp' pommel could cause problems. My concern was that the sharp point might scratch or puncture my hand if I wasn't extra careful getting the knife out of the sheath or I used a palm reinforced grip to drive the point into an object. The sharpened pommel looks very sharp in the photos. In other posts forum members have expressed concerns over the sharp pommel. I bought the 3-MIL anyway because I really liked the looks.

Good news everybody! The sharpened glass breaker isn't sharp enough to cut anything.

The two flat grinds that make the point ensure that a glass breaking impact will concentrate the force of the blow to a single point (for the regular non-modified pommel this would be a straight line rather than a point), so it should perform its intended duty well. It is not an issue for handling.

If I ever need to use a baton on the pommel to chisel a hole in a piece of wood, the point will probably be rather hard on the baton. This is probably why the regular RC-3 is available with the modified (rounded) pommel.

And I am very, very happy with the RC-3MIL!

Here are a couple of close up photos -- though even these photos make the point look very sharp:

GlassBreaker-1.jpg


GlassBreaker-2.jpg


P.S. Owners of the non-sharpened glass breaker pommels could very easily sharpen theirs.
 
That is the only difference,I love the MIL but if I am not packing the MIL I prefer the rounded pommel on my other3's like the 4's
 
mind sharing the details of whatever the silly law is that prohibits you from carrying a 3" blade "in the city" or even having it in the passenger compartment of your vehicle?

i *thought* another difference between the std and mil versions was that the mil had a thicker blade. but perhaps the moldy hunk of swiss cheese between my ears dreamed that one up on it;s own. sorry, not gonna double check right now.
 
blade is the same....
ESEE3mil canvas micarta,sharpened pommel & serial number and all the sheath goodies
 
mind sharing the details of whatever the silly law is that prohibits you from carrying a 3" blade "in the city" or even having it in the passenger compartment of your vehicle?

It's an evil municipal ordinance. State law in Wisconsin allows open carry of handguns with a permit, but the City of Milwaukee won't allow a knife blade longer than 3 inches. A man was fined $276 for having a 5" knife in the locked glove box of his car. On appeal, the judge concluded that the locked glove box was "accessible" and thus the knife was being "carried on his person". It's an ordinance violation (like a parking ticket), rather than a weapons violation, but it's still a PITA. There is also the likelyhood that they will confiscate the knife...

I *thought* another difference between the std and mil versions was that the mil had a thicker blade. but perhaps the moldy hunk of swiss cheese between my ears dreamed that one up on it;s own. sorry, not gonna double check right now.

The ESEE-3 is listed as 1/8" and the ESEE-3MIL is listed as .125" which "seems" to be different, but isn't.
 
blade is the same....
ESEE3mil canvas micarta,sharpened pommel & serial number and all the sheath goodies

ESEE-3 also has "serial number on pommel", so that's not a difference. Did the RC-3 have a serial number in a different location?
 
It's an evil municipal ordinance. State law in Wisconsin allows open carry of handguns with a permit, but the City of Milwaukee won't allow a knife blade longer than 3 inches. A man was fined $276 for having a 5" knife in the locked glove box of his car. On appeal, the judge concluded that the locked glove box was "accessible" and thus the knife was being "carried on his person". It's an ordinance violation (like a parking ticket), rather than a weapons violation, but it's still a PITA. There is also the likelyhood that they will confiscate the knife...

ok. here open carry of handguns is legal without any paperwork. just don't scare the tourists. ccw is "shall issue", you can carry in bars, just can't be drunk, and you can openly carry any size blade, you just can't conceal anything over 3" blade length in Clark County.



The ESEE-3 is listed as 1/8" and the ESEE-3MIL is listed as .125" which "seems" to be different, but isn't.

oh, i've done enough conversion between fractions and decimal so that wasn't throwing me off. somehow i thought the mil had a thicker blade. no explanation for why.

i greatly prefer working in decimal when doing tech illustration, etc.
 
ESEE-3 also has "serial number on pommel", so that's not a difference. Did the RC-3 have a serial number in a different location?

The standard RC3 had no serial number only the RC3MIL the newer ESEE3 all have them now,something to do with book keeping...not my area :D :thumbup:
 
If you want to effectively take out a car window (for legal purposes such as extrication or escaping of course, don't just run around trying it for kicks) the best thing to do is take a sharpened pommel like this and give it a good solid smack at one of the lower corners of the window. The pointed tip of the glass breaker makes a tremendous difference in how easy this is.

Please don't break your brother's/mother's/wife's/husband's car and then say I told you how to, k?
 
Nice pics of the sharpened pommel. I bought the RC3MIL because it comes with all the sheath options. I figured that I could easily blunt the glass breaker tip if it got in the way (it hasn't).
 
Nice pics of the sharpened pommel. I bought the RC3MIL because it comes with all the sheath options. I figured that I could easily blunt the glass breaker tip if it got in the way (it hasn't).

Sorry, I know this is a bit old but I'm trying to figure out which ESEE-3 to get and it's getting confusing. With regards to the RC3MIL coming with all the sheath options... can't all the sheath options be had with some other ESEE-3's? To be clear, we are talking about sheath, molle back, molle locks, boot clip and paracord, right? At my 'local' dealer there are many 3's (not just MIL's) listed as coming with all of these sheath options. Or am I getting incorrect information from my dealer?
 
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The standard RC3 had no serial number only the RC3MIL the newer ESEE3 all have them now,something to do with book keeping...not my area :D :thumbup:
My RC3 has a number under the scales that, now that I look at it, looks like a manufacture date. Can you confirm or is do we have more than 21k RC3s out there as of a year ago?
 
The number under the scale is a heat treat date
 
Thanks :thumbup: It would have been great if there were that many RC3s out there. I guess with the Izula being the most popular and just hitting 10k that it doesn't make much sense. Oh well.
 
I would say we're close to that many 3's out there because we didn't serialize them until the name changeover.
 
Don't know about the 3, but the 5 glass breaker work pretty well.

ETA: don't mind the whining dog in the background. :D

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"Don't know about the 3, but the 5 glass breaker work pretty well."

Nice demo!:thumbup: Thanks for posting.
 
adam04,

Can you post this up on our RAT Facebook page and can we have permission to use this on the main web site?
 
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