Glock 27 vs Kahr PM40

As others have said, what appear to be minor differences on paper are HUGE in terms of feel and comfort.

The Kahr P9 is my choice except in the really cold days of winter when I can get away with wearing a big bulky sweatshirt. Then I carry either a SIG P220, Glock 20 or S&W 1086. Oh, and suspenders under my shirt to help keeps my pants up (no kidding).
 
Seems like most folks here are thinking the same as me. Even if the differance is not that much, smaller is better when it comes to CCW. I plan to check out a local shooting range to see if they have one to rent. I would like to shoot one first if I can find one.
Thanks for everyones input!!:D
 
I have a Kahr TP9 and love it, once I figured out how to shoot it. And it's super-concealable with the right holster. The slide release does tend to bite the thumb though, you'll want to remove it and break the sharp edges with sandpaper.

Both are very reliable. I hate Glocks myself so I can't personally comment on their long-term reliability. But last night I was shooting my Kahr and after consistent flawless performance it finally began to have some difficulty feeding rounds - after about 1200 rounds without any cleaning (I wanted to see how long it would take before there were any adverse effects).

The Kahr is more concealable than the Glock, but what is way more important is how well you shoot either pistol - that's also way more important than caliber b/c a hit with a .380 has 1000% more stopping power than a miss with a .40! And Cor-Bon makes some astonishingly effective .380 loads.

I would rank the 5 factors to consider for CC as:
1. reliability
2. reliability
3. reliability
4. how well you shoot it
5. how well it conceals
 
I've never had any problems with my Glocks. If you going to carry a gun in a holster there isn't to much differnce in concelling it IME. I have Glocks sub compact. I have a small Walther .380. So if it's in a holster it's much different imo. If you want to carry it in your pocket then theres a big difference.I personal woul at least carry a 9mm. My preferance. The hit or miss analogy doesn't make sence cux we all plan to hit. I shot the Kahr this weeked. I didn't like it. Anything that I need to sand and fix so it doesn't bite me ?? They should just fix it in the factory. The G27 shoot and feels better to me. To the op maybe not. Thats why I always shoot a gun before I buy one. I don't give a crap what someone else says.A gun that bites me every clip isn't fun to shoot. I want to have fun and beable to shoot the gun also. May not work for me.I use like to carry .32 and .380 until I started reading on actual shootings with these guns. That made me decide to carry a bigger caliber. You may hit someone with a .380 2-3x but it may not stop them and you can get in more trouble than one shot with a .45. Go read up on gun shootings in your area.JMO
 
the P9 or PM9 (or P40 & PM40) carry a lot better vs a glock 26/27/33 thats simply a fact of life.

i would as soon have the 9MM vs the .40 myself, but the .40 is good too, just whatever ya like.

if you can live with a PPk you can live with a PM9 they are just about the same dimensions and IIRC the kahr is a tad liter to boot, its just a little thicker than the PPk.
 
SIFU1A said:
the P9 or PM9 (or P40 & PM40) carry a lot better vs a glock 26/27/33 thats simply a fact of life.

i would as soon have the 9MM vs the .40 myself, but the .40 is good too, just whatever ya like.

if you can live with a PPk you can live with a PM9 they are just about the same dimensions and IIRC the kahr is a tad liter to boot, its just a little thicker than the PPk.
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That reminds me of some photos I made up. Subjects are Kahr PM40, BabyGlock 40 and Walther PPK/S. Notice there are two pistols stacked on each other. Obviously there is a bit of angle to show the under pistol.
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Kahr/Walther
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Glock/Walther/Kahr....very imperfect
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i recommend the walther pps .40. snappy but controllable when fired, very slick frame & slide--does not bite. i own one and a kahr pm9. both are equally reliable, 100%. slide of pm9 is same thickness as 1911 gvmt., pps is noticeably thinner. with 5 rd. mag, pocket carry in a de santis nemesis holster gives low profile, serious firepower. pocket holster seems mandatory--uncovered trigger is dangerous and holster breaks up outline of gun. would'nt have thought first post on a knife forum would be gun-related but there 'tis.
 
zenheretic said:
That reminds me of some photos I made up. Subjects are Kahr PM40, BabyGlock 40 and Walther PPK/S. Notice there are two pistols stacked on each other. Obviously there is a bit of angle to show the under pistol.
Glock/Walther
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Walther/Glock
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Kahr/Walther
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Walther/Kahr
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Glock/Walther/Kahr....very imperfect
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GREAT pictures!!! That makes it a lot easier to compare. At this point I thinking of sticking with the G27. I have 2 holsters for it. Both are FIST kydex. One is a pocket and the other is a IWB. I prefer the pocket, but I have to be carful when I sit down so that it dosen't "print".

The more I read about the PM40 the more I hear about how uncomfortable it is to shoot and the pinching can be an issue.

I guess I could get another Kel-tech 3AT for those time when a .380 is better than a G27 left in the car. But for some reason, I just don't like that.

GREAT info guys!! Thanks
 
halftrack said:
i recommend the walther pps .40. snappy but controllable when fired, very slick frame & slide--does not bite. i own one and a kahr pm9. both are equally reliable, 100%. slide of pm9 is same thickness as 1911 gvmt., pps is noticeably thinner. with 5 rd. mag, pocket carry in a de santis nemesis holster gives low profile, serious firepower. pocket holster seems mandatory--uncovered trigger is dangerous and holster breaks up outline of gun. would'nt have thought first post on a knife forum would be gun-related but there 'tis.
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I actually look at the PPS first. It feels like I'm putting the mag in backwards. Seems like it could be a problem if I had to change mags in a hurry.
 
If you've already narrowed your decision down to either the Glock or the Kahr, then rock the Glock for sure. The Kahr is a great gun, but seem ammo picky whereas any Glock I've ever owned would eat anything you fed it from round 1. Also, Kahr mags cost nearly twice as much as Glocks, not to mention their greater capacity. If you have larger hands, try some grip extensions from Pearce, they even make a +2 extension if I'm not mistaken. Again,nothing wrong with either gun, but the Glock would be my pick. Plus if you chose, you can customize the doodoo out it and really make it yours. :D
 
fruitbat said:
GREAT pictures!!! That makes it a lot easier to compare. At this point I thinking of sticking with the G27. I have 2 holsters for it. Both are FIST kydex. One is a pocket and the other is a IWB. I prefer the pocket, but I have to be carful when I sit down so that it dosen't "print".

The more I read about the PM40 the more I hear about how uncomfortable it is to shoot and the pinching can be an issue.

I guess I could get another Kel-tech 3AT for those time when a .380 is better than a G27 left in the car. But for some reason, I just don't like that.

GREAT info guys!! Thanks
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a bud has a P40 covert i shoot some, its snappier than a 9MM but imho isnt a big deal, i smooth out and round off the slide release on all my poly kahrs which will rub a blister on your hand if left stock but after that mod i have never had any problems at all with them, 9MM or .40. i do know my glock 33 is a lot snappier than the P40 covert is.

i love PP/PPK/PPK/s's and have several, none are real reliable with anything but ball though, my PPk .32 comes closest to being what i would call reliable with soft ammo, it seems to like w-w silvertip ok, but my .380 PPk doesnt run well with anything but ball, same with my PPk/s .380, even my PP .22 prefers solid point ammo, all of them are 100% with ball though FWIW.

though i used to occasionally carry my PPk .32 in hot weather/with certain clothes/etc i havent carried it in yrs now, the PM9 is just as easy to deal with and is in a better calibre for SD, as far as 9MM vs .40 as long as you use good modern ammo (ie w-w ranger, speer gold dot or remington golden sabre) the difference between those 2 is imho nil and a good hit with either one is gonna work, usually anyway, and if it doesnt its probably not gonna be the fault of the calibre, if i lived in a state were ball was required i would carry a officers model size kimber 1911 in .45 anyway.
 
I also have a Kahr P45, and I enjoy shooting that more than the PM40. Obviously a bit bigger, but still real easy to carry.
 
Well after a lot of looking and drooling I decided to stick with my G27. It is a bit hard to conceal (I prefer pocket carry). I know I can trust it as long as I can do my part. I do pretty well at the range. And I know it will go BANG every time.

Thanks for all the advice guys!!!!
 
the glock 26/27/33 series is imho top dog for edc over any of the other stuff except for the poly kahrs, i got by just fine for 2-3 yrs with a 26 or 33, i do like to add a glock brand +2 to at least one mag on them to add a bit of length to the grip, and to add +2 rounds too, i like the +2 floorplate a lot better than a std mag extension too, like from scherer, looks and feels better and adds +2, also there are a lotta +2 'plates floating around which arent glock brand all i have tried should be called a +1 as they only added 1 vs 2 rounds, i also didnt like the looks as much as the glock brand ones, anyway a 26/27/33 with nite sites, & a glock +2 is a pretty darned good combo and easy to live with day to day, like i said as good (or better) than anything i have tried except the kahr poly's so ya could sure do a lot worse.
 
Yup since you already have the G27 save your $$. Take your time and really shoot all the guns before you buy one. Why rush it. IMO a gun is an important purchase. They won't feel the same to everyone.
 
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