Go East Old Man!

[mike Berkovitch]

I think Charlie got some real treasures during his trip. Duncan with his sharp observationhad stated all the interesting points that caught my eye as well. So I will refer to the punch on the second photo, it is simple hard working man tool and yet very efficient design for its purpose, I love old hand tools.
Mike

 

[waynorth]

It does look like a punch, Mike. But the sides are not sharp, so it is a gouge or wood chisel. My wife does woodblock printing, and that little 1/4" chisel/gouge is right up her alley, as soon as I put an edge on it.

 

[Jack Black]

Great finds Charlie. Glad you're going home with your pockets full

I particularly like the Camillus :thumbup:

Is the IXL hawkbill a leather workers knife? It's very similiar to a Tyzack I got the other week (pictured here http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1110192-Lean-Times-In-Leeds-Market), though the IXL has nicer lines.

 

[mike Berkovitch]

It does look like a punch, Mike. But the sides are not sharp, so it is a gouge or wood chisel. My wife does woodblock printing, and that little 1/4" chisel/gouge is right up her alley, as soon as I put an edge on it.

Interesting tool and even more interesting hobby your wife has. I am interested in Japanese wood block prints (Ukiyo-e) but never knew a someone who actually does the art of wood block printing.

Mike

 

[waynorth]

Great finds Charlie. Glad you're going home with your pockets full

I particularly like the Camillus :thumbup:

Is the IXL hawkbill a leather workers knife? It's very similiar to a Tyzack I got the other week (pictured here http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1110192-Lean-Times-In-Leeds-Market), though the IXL has nicer lines.

Jack, mine doesn't say leather knife on it, but I am convinced it came off the same cutlery bench as your Tyzack! The profile is different, but rivet placement and wood species are the same IMO! The blade difference might be for the intended end use, or from wear (less likely I think).
I'll bet Geo. Wostenholm&Son made your knife also, and marked it Tyzack for a retailer!

 

[Jack Black]

Jack, mine doesn't say leather knife on it, but I am convinced it came off the same cutlery bench as your Tyzack! The profile is different, but rivet placement and wood species are the same IMO! The blade difference might be for the intended end use, or from wear (less likely I think).
I'll bet Geo. Wostenholm&Son made your knife also, and marked it Tyzack for a retailer!

Very interesting Charlie. Unfortunately, I managed to delete all my Bookmarks the other day, but there's a very similar knife currently being made by Slater Brothers. I was going to use the Tyzack in the garden, but be happy to send it you over if it's of interest

Edit - Here's the Slater link: http://www.slaterknives.co.uk/products/general_trade_knives_and_tools.asp

 

[Campbellclanman]

Great to see those two together - forgive me Jack as I forgot about your sweep the other day when you got the same knife.
I love interesting old knives, that English Jack is just great!

 

[Faiaoga]

Sorry, just saw your posts now. I have written the archives of Canada regarding your exact question, so far no answer. The Wostenholm whittler seems a very strange knife for any branch of government workers. Although they could have been for the Members of Parliament for whittlin instead of listening ;-)))
The Rodgers jack is likely around WW1, the Wostenholm is only marked Sheffield which would normally lead one to believe it was pre 1891 but being the Canada was part of the British empire I'm not sure the mark regulations would count. If I find anything out I'll post it.
Finding the second one makes it a collection, I've been looking everywhere for similar marks. Charlie has a knife marked Hudson's Bay company that I wouldn't mind finding in a junk store )))
Best regards

Robin

Thank you for following up on this; I just saw your response. I have no interest in the topic, except curiosity, but I am still curious.

As an American, I am trying to think of any US agencies (other than military) that would issue knives and have the blades marked. I have seen pictures of axes marked for the US Forest Service but I do not know of any US government agency that would have its name or initials stamped on a knife blade. Fish and Wildlife, Postal Service, Customs and many other agencies may issue knives and have use for them but I do not know of any that have special stamps.

As a college student, I worked two summers in Southeast Alaska for the Bureau of Public roads in a national forest. I was issued a machete but I do not recall any special federal government markings or stamps.

 

[SAK Guy]

Good luck buddy! Here's a couple with a Murph from Mass thrown in!

 

[waynorth]

Good luck buddy! Here's a couple with a Murph from Mass thrown in!

Nice, interesting knives, SAK guy. which is the Murph from Mass? I can't quite read the markings. They all look like they were made at Grohmann.

 

[SAK Guy]

The bottom one is the R. Murphy. It was the knife supplied to the old Herter's company as the "George L. Herter Knife". It's a nice carbon steel and around 35.00.

The other two are both Russell/Grohmann knives. Top is an older DH Russell marked Camp (carbon) and the middle one is a current Original model that's flat ground, in carbon with Micarta scales.

Here's a better pic of the "Murph":

 

[waynorth]

Thanks for the improved Pic, SAK!

Any idea whether Grohmann made it or not?

 

[SAK Guy]

Thanks for the improved Pic, SAK!

Any idea whether Grohmann made it or not?

The pattern was originally made by R Murphy of Ayer Mass for the Herters Company. It's a US made knife. R Murphy is a pretty old manufacturer of knives...really great old knife designs.. When Herters went out of business, they started selling all their knives under their own name. It's clearly a copy of the old Russell Belt knife but is a fine knife in it's own right!

They sell them on their site so no link...just google "R Murphy Ayer Mass" and their website will pop up. They still make this knife with lots of exotic handle choices.

Robert

btw, here's a link to a discussion and the knife with the Herter's branding:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/905359-Does-Anyone-Remember/page2

 

[mudguard]

Hello Charlie,
I live about 15-20 min from the area in a town called Antigonish. Here is some treasure hunting incentive...If you around the area let me know and you can have this single bladed Barlow that I purchased from an antique shop in Truro Nova Scotia. I PM with some more details

 

[waynorth]

I have let this thread languish long enough! Nice find mudguard!!
My wife and I ate Lobsters in Antigonish!! Can't remember the restaurant.
That's a fine I*XL Barlow!! The jigging is reminiscent of checkering or old time "scratting".

I have been working a little on the knives I found in your neck of the woods, on my vacation.
An old Needham clasp knife gave up its tang stamp under a pile of rust and black guck.

The C.Johnson Lambfoot main blade is good, but the pen is broken off. I may convert the knife into a single blade, If I ever get some time!

I found a cobbler's hammer along with the knives for $3, that was a ball of rust. Being very loose, I re-wedged it with wood, then steel (the way you should), and whipped a crack in the old handle to preserve it. It's useless without a polished face, so I cleaned it up.

 

[belljs3]

Hello Charlie,
I live about 15-20 min from the area in a town called Antigonish. Here is some treasure hunting incentive...If you around the area let me know and you can have this single bladed Barlow that I purchased from an antique shop in Truro Nova Scotia. I PM with some more details

I ended up with this barlow, it is a real beauty, wicked snap and solid lockup

 

[Campbellclanman]

I have let this thread languish long enough! Nice find mudguard!!
My wife and I ate Lobsters in Antigonish!! Can't remember the restaurant.
That's a fine I*XL Barlow!! The jigging is reminiscent of checkering or old time "scratting".

I have been working a little on the knives I found in your neck of the woods, on my vacation.
An old Needham clasp knife gave up its tang stamp under a pile of rust and black guck.

The C.Johnson Lambfoot main blade is good, but the pen is broken off. I may convert the knife into a single blade, If I ever get some time!

I found a cobbler's hammer along with the knives for $3, that was a ball of rust. Being very loose, I re-wedged it with wood, then steel (the way you should), and whipped a crack in the old handle to preserve it. It's useless without a polished face, so I cleaned it up.

Charlie, that's a very nice job you did on the Hammer -excellent skills!

 

[Jack Black]

Charlie, that's a very nice job you did on the Hammer -excellent skills!

+1. Nice Lambsfoot too Charlie :thumbup:

 

[waynorth]

Thanks, Duncan and Jack.

I have always enjoyed re-handling Hammers and Axes, or tightening them up. A loose head is the epitome of bad!

The Lambfoot did turn out real nice, under all that corruption.

 

[Old Bowie]

Have a great trip Charlie. Check out Government buildings, apparently they carried knives in the past
Don't forget Donald Bell, he's a custom knife maker and a jeweler who will make your Sweety happy.
Best regards

Robin

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Really like that Wharnecliff Robin - I have one without the canada etch and a broken secondary blade.