good BB guns

Scottman said:
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the benjamin sheridan airguns are the best in my opinion. I am borrowing one in .20 cal for pests around the house. Kills raccoons, and opossums great, I have killed 1 of each so far. This thing has authority. I took a number 10 tin can, the food storage kind, and shot at it with the .20. Went through with no problem at 15 yards. I recommend the .22 cal as the ammo is more available. You can vary the power, which is a good feature also. Shooting something like a frog, or a mouse would only maybe require like 2 pumps maybe. I haven't done it, but the fact that you can vary the power level is great. The gun at 8 pumps is louder than my little .177 pump up guns, but not to bad. Another guy has the .22 cal benjamin, and he said he kills woodchucks with 6 pumps, not even full power. So, it definitely is a good gun. Oh, by the way these are pellet guns, you only shoot pellets, so they aren't a "bb gun", they are an airgun. But they are better than a regular "bb" gun.

Overall, I wish I owned that gun. If you are looking for a more serious airgun, I would look at this one. Also, it is good for hunting, something I love to do. :)
Later, in my life, I will be sure to own this gun!

Take care,
Scottman
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cool thanks for the insite. i sure have a lot of options thats for sure
 
Sheridan is a good gun, They are american made also.
You don't have many options under 100 and it's best to fit the gun to your use.

The sheridan can be very powerful, and it's well built, but it has some shortcomings too. The trigger can be heavy (lawyer trigger) I don't remember the exact weight but I believe they are in the 5-10lb range. Also they are quite a chore to pump. Not really the gun you want if you want to put a lot of lead down range. The sheridan is also quite loud, especially at 10 pumps.
The sheridan has average accuracy, it can be improved with some tweaking.

About caliber: .22 is nice for hunting, and thumps the cans real good, but It's over double the price per pellet.

The CZ slavia is made in the czech republic, and it's well made like It's rimfire counterparts. The CZ is about half the power of the sheridan, but it is almost silent. It is also very accurate.
It's a barrel cocker, It's very easy to cock, and you only have to cock it once. I've tweaked my slavia's trigger to about a pound.

Other under 100 choices are some chinese guns.

The qb-78 is a co2 powered bolt action. These are nice in .22 cal. Very accurate, and a little bit more powerful then the slavia.
www.archerairguns.com

Any of these 3 would be good starter guns. The sheridan however runs over 100.

Feel free to ask me any other questions.
 
physh said:
Sheridan is a good gun, They are american made also.
You don't have many options under 100 and it's best to fit the gun to your use.

The sheridan can be very powerful, and it's well built, but it has some shortcomings too. The trigger can be heavy (lawyer trigger) I don't remember the exact weight but I believe they are in the 5-10lb range. Also they are quite a chore to pump. Not really the gun you want if you want to put a lot of lead down range. The sheridan is also quite loud, especially at 10 pumps.
The sheridan has average accuracy, it can be improved with some tweaking.

About caliber: .22 is nice for hunting, and thumps the cans real good, but It's over double the price per pellet.

The CZ slavia is made in the czech republic, and it's well made like It's rimfire counterparts. The CZ is about half the power of the sheridan, but it is almost silent. It is also very accurate.
It's a barrel cocker, It's very easy to cock, and you only have to cock it once. I've tweaked my slavia's trigger to about a pound.

Other under 100 choices are some chinese guns.

The qb-78 is a co2 powered bolt action. These are nice in .22 cal. Very accurate, and a little bit more powerful then the slavia.
www.archerairguns.com

Any of these 3 would be good starter guns. The sheridan however runs over 100.

Feel free to ask me any other questions.
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my use is more for target practice and just shooting random items. i wont be going after small animals, though i will occasionally take a cheap shot at a pigeon. so thats my use. dont really need something super powerful, but accuracy is a good thing always
 
Sorry about the Gamo suggestion- stopped at sportsman's warehouse at lunch and was horrified to see a price of $250 w/o a scope
 
cash2006 said:
Sorry about the Gamo suggestion- stopped at sportsman's warehouse at lunch and was horrified to see a price of $250 w/o a scope
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i just looked at Bass Pro shops and they had what i would consider a good price on most of the Gamo rifles. I would spend the $150 for a rifle that is good. wont pay $200 + though. Bass has good prices
 
offsetlover said:
i just looked at Bass Pro shops and they had what i would consider a good price on most of the Gamo rifles. I would spend the $150 for a rifle that is good. wont pay $200 + though. Bass has good prices
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Once you are committing real money on an air gun (i.e., a couple hundred), I think you're better off saving up a few more bucks and getting something like a Beeman R7 or R9.

On the other hand, if you are really just looking for something pretty cheap you can get a Crossman Pumpmaster 760 for 50 bucks and my son and I have had 90% as much fun with that old pump as we have with the fancy R7
 
offsetlover said:
my budget at anyone time (save now) is prolly going to be around $70 or so.
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OK, bearing this in mind $70 is only going to buy the lowest end of the market - where mainly the (very) poor trigger quality is going to be the major let-down -

Having said that warning -
there are plenty of cheapie air-rifles to be had via places like WalMart etc.

Crosman Pumpmaster 760 - shoots both BBs and .177 pellets - a versatile fun gun - multi-pump which can be tiresome if you shoot at full power most of the time - but conversely multi pumps can have lower (variable) power with fewer pumps - I've seen it as low as $33.

Crosman 1077 Repeater - .177 CO2 gun - more fun than a barrel of monkeys - really Horrible trigger - but cheap and did I say fun? - low priced at about $58.

Daisy Model 880 - .177 both BBs and pellets, multi-pump - good looking - low priced at about $40.

Daisy Model 901 - .177 both BBs and pellets, multi-pump - about the same as the 880, different look - low priced about $44.

Crosman Classic 2100 - .177 BBs and pellets - multi-pump - higher power - may be useful for pest control - although the discontinued 2200 in .22 is better for that. Low priced at about $58.

A bargain of sorts - but a few $$ above your $70 is -

Crosman 2260 - .22 CO2 - powerful enough for pest control better than any of the above guns - but still pretty poor trigger - low priced about $73 (not including shipping)

Here's a possible exception to the trigger rule -

Daisy PowerLine TargetPro 953 - .177 pellet - single-pump pneumatic, bolt-action, supposed to be very accurate - it's a cheap target/competion gun - uses a 5 shot clip magazine - not quite a repeater but saves having to load every single shot - read the Review and Reviews - despite what Daisy may claim it is not really powerful enough for pest control (keep it at about 10 yards, with good head shots) - bargain priced - as low as about $61 (without shipping).

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Shot a blackbird through the chest with first shot, and through the head with the second with the scoped Gamo last night- but at only about 30 yds
 
Vincent, the 953 trigger is nothing to write home about either. My finger was purple from shooting it so much.

For 80 or so dollars nothing comes close to the slavia 631.
 
physh said:
Vincent, the 953 trigger is nothing to write home about either. My finger was purple from shooting it so much.
For 80 or so dollars nothing comes close to the slavia 631.
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Many thanks for that input -
it would appear from the reviews on-line that the trigger is not that good on the Daisy 953.

The low(er) priced air rifle that seems to be very highly thought of was the (Russian) Baikal IZH 61 - Review, reviews, overview.

It's just under $100 and pretty low powered though.

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I found a Daisy 953 so I thought I'd weigh in. I got the gun on clearance at Academy for $38. Mines missing the 5 shot clip, but it was the last one left. For the price it doesn't bother me really. The trigger is heavy, but you'd have to shoot it all day before your finger turned purple. The gun isn't very powerful at all. It won't penetrate a 20 oz Gatorade bottle from 20 feet, and it hardly penetrates my backstop (a cardboard box full of newspapers).

On the plus side, it's pretty accurate and easy to shoot. It's based on the 753 and 853 target guns but has a plastic stock, generic barrel instead of a Walther, and no peep sights. Since it weighs 6.4 pounds so I wouldn't get it if you are shopping for younger kids. It might be a tad hard for kids to pump too.
 
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