Good blade style for the wife....

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Ok so my wife wasn't all that crazy about the knife making idea. So like any good husband that listens, I proceeded to make knives anyway. As I'm sketching out knives and getting my little shop together I notice a slight interest from her(but she won't admit it). So testing the waters I say "hey hun, would you like me to make you one?".... DING DING DING! She wants a knife! Like any southern belle should! So here comes my question. What style knife should I base her knife design off of? She says she wants it "short and thick"(lmao) and me being new at this, I'm not to hip on knife styles. She is a hair dresser and likes hunting, so I'm guessing something compact to fit next to her lip gloss... She said also no folding knife. Full tang. Any suggestions?
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I hope I'm not making a faux pas posting this...
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Your wife sounds about like my buddy's (hairdressing GRITS) and this is what she requested as her wedding gift.
She'd requested the quasi-santoku drop to the point and handle accents--she wanted something that she could wear on her belt for hunting, good for caping...or at campside for chopping w/e for supper.
She also wanted it something that would easily clean up and then ride sidesaddle in her purse for protection, a good thick, wide blade for baton, a tapered tang to make sure they got the "point" when she said back off before they ended up taking the point.
For the accessorized feeling, she requested accents like mokume gane bolsters, blue liners, and mosaic pins.

In plain English--
To help her come to her decisions, I started with the accents she wanted, by getting her mind set on what she could readily look at, it helped to form the rest of the knife.
Getting the handle settled helped transition to blade shape and size--in her case, she didn't want something girly, had some beef to it, and could stand some light forge marking to show it was hand made.
The width of the blade got worked out between her interests and her idea of what knives do and what she intended for hers. In this case, she has a tendancy to reach up on the spine to scrape between hides, or pinches the ricasso area when cooking.
Aspects like ergonomics went hand in hand with her (then) soon-to-be hubby's lessons on knife fighting (from where they come from in Louisiana, forgetaboutit). Long story short, she wanted its self defense use to start off by smacking with the side of the blade, worse giving them a poke with the hilt, and if that didn't settle things, turning to the edge--full slicing swing.
My female customers are by far some of my best, their input in design has much more detail than I sometimes get from even my male blade-aficionado customers. However, if they're not knife fans themselves, they are easily deterred if they feel pressured or overwhelmed if you throw too much at them at once, like launching into the metallurgy. For stuff like blade material choice, once they have a firm idea of what they're looking at, then you can ask about edge retention, temper lines, or hamon.
By and large, small bits here and there before giving them a picture to look at will do the most good. I make patterns from particle board prior to profiling or forging--9 times out of 10, women will be that much more likely to appreciate a trial pattern prior to making the knife. Whereas male customers will turn down an offer to try it on for size, a woman will go through all their anticipated motions. Which is the biggest point: women are particular and practical.
 
Wow thanks for the detailed response! Yeah she's sitting next to me know looking at different knives and so far she's got a tanto and a drop point picked out. I mesh them together and see what she thinks. As far as the feel of it, she's picked up a couple of the useless weld steel knives I made and she likes the way one of them feel. Thanks again m8
 
I hope I'm not making a faux pas posting this...

[B]By and large, small bits here and there before giving them a picture to look at will do the most good[/B]. [/QUOTE]

I agree

check out this post
[url]http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/926236-Weld-steel?p=10511815#post10511815[/url]


Look at the headings Knife design and the E books thread

LLoyd Harding, Bob Egnath, Bob Loveless


There are thousands of photos and drawings.
 
my lady carryes a 4 ich folder i made years ago and now for V day i made her a Ti dive knife
i nice small fixed blade is she hunts should be built jsut for her if not does she liek to cook (maker her what she will get the most use out of)
kelly didnt know how much fun it wasw to cook til she started to use good kitchenn kniovbes
(she loved to cook but was not faund of all the prep work )
 
I agree

check out this post
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/926236-Weld-steel?p=10511815#post10511815


Look at the headings Knife design and the E books thread

LLoyd Harding, Bob Egnath, Bob Loveless


There are thousands of photos and drawings.

Thanks! Here's the drawing of my knife I want to make. I posted it on anothe topic as well. I tend to get very involved in things so I'm sure there will be many more designs to be posted in the future. I love feedback, nothing helps a mind grow like criticism.
 
That a pretty nice drawing.

I say make up one in wood, Plexiglas, cardboard, or something


Give it to her for a few weeks and ask what needs to change

Or make a few cardboard patterns of a few very different styles and ask what she likes about each style.

It's very flat in the grips, maybe good for a slim purse blade, maybe wants a more rounded palm filling handle.
you can try it out with silly putty, clay, balls of tape...



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Also consider dropping the spine on a curve

If she would use it to dress a deer with, that finger bump makes it hard to use upside down.


Do you have a set of french curves for drawing ?
 
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It's very flat in the grips, maybe good for a slim purse blade, maybe wants a more rounded palm filling handle.
you can try it out with silly putty, clay, balls of tape...
Lol I use my daughters playdoh...

No I don't have any French curves anymore.... Need to swing by hobby lobby and grab a set when I can. Thanks for the advice on the spine. I had it raised tho for a thumb placement... I dunno but it felt good in my hand for what I'll be doing with it. I'm going to draw up and make a fiberglass cut out the wife's tomorrow.
 
One that my wife digs (though not quite finished), with a kydex pocket (purse) sheath; OAL 7.25", 3/16" x 1.5" 1095

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heres a picture of her final approved design... Not much different than mine.. Oh well she's happy, I'm happy. Now I just have the get the steel
 
I think deleting the thumb ramp will help it to handle better

Be careful of the pointy bit of handle material that sticks down.

It will have a tendency to break off, especially if you went with wood.

You have bullet casings as rivet pins, but they are drawn in as 1/4", so if you have .22"s in mind, ok
- but if you have a deer rifle cartridge in mind, they will be bigger than you have drawn.

You have the full width of the scales drawn in as full width flat, but you will probably do some rounding off of them.
 
Be careful of the pointy bit of handle material that sticks down.

It will have a tendency to break off, especially if you went with wood.

You have bullet casings as rivet pins, but they are drawn in as 1/4", so if you have .22"s in mind, ok
- but if you have a deer rifle cartridge in mind, they will be bigger than you have drawn.

You have the full width of the scales drawn in as full width flat, but you will probably do some rounding off of them.

I think it's funny how you always bring up the same things I think about while I'm sketching

The Scales are fiberglass or epoxy laminate.i always draw them flat for simplicity then I will end up notching and shaping them. The bullet casings were just a cool touch we were thinking about. Maybe made in to a cap that pops in and out of the handle to expose the flush mounted pin. I've never made knive but I am throughing all the knowledge I have of fabrication and design together in a way I would like to make a knife. If it works great if not, then back to the pad and paper and figure out why it didn't. By far one of the most fun hobbies I've had. I'm actually researching how to make my own regualtes induction heating unit... We shall see
 
An old drafting trick, use the sole of your shoe to replace a french curve. Of course, you might look silly holding your shoe up to the computer screen, but you seem to like pencil and paper.

Something I did when I was trying to figure out designs for my tiny wife (she's not even 5' tall) was hand her a ruler and told her to grip it like a knife handle. I took notice of how long of a grip she needed and traslated it to a KSO.


-Xander
 
Haha yeah I handed the the ruler and said "here's your knife". I'd use the computer but I really like being in more control of the curvature by hand then if I want to I can scan it in and tinker and clean up edges in Inkscape/Corel. But from there I'd waste time putting it into photoshop and toying with shading and the patern for the scales... Etc etc, I'm OCD with art so I try my hardest to keep it simple lol
 
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