Good EDC Tactical Folder

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Datawraith

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Hi all.

I have narrowed down a search to 3 knives that seem to have good reviews and reputations.

Kershaw Bump
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Kershaw Emerson CQC-6K
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Cold Steel Ti-Lite 4" Zytel
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The purpose will be primarily EDC with the use as an emergency self-defense knife.

I like:
-the Kershaw Bump's extreme recurve, as well as the look and the flipper (but I have never used a stud lock before, so I don't know how reliable it is)
-the Kershaw Emerson's clip point, as well as the the Emerson Wave quillion, but I don't really like the stainless backing instead of G10 (but I can live with it)
-the Cold Steel Ti-Lite's stiletto look, as well as the quillions that double as a small guard (stiletto look might scare people though, but I don't care)

Thoughts please.

Many thanks.
 
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I don't know much about those knives.

For self defense, have you seen the Cold Steel Spartan? I have one, and that knife is a scary looking recurve. It'll cut somebody. Easy to put a super sharp edge on it too. If you can deal with the recurve anyway.

You can get them cheaper elsewhere on the net. Usually $50 - $60.

http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/21S/SPARTAN.aspx
 
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I have the cqc-7k, and my only complaint is that the handle is way too small for my hands. (Maybe just my gorilla hands though?). It is very well put together for the price, not the best steel but adequate for the price, and locks up solid.

For edc? It works well imo, the wave always catches perfect for me. Wouldn't want to rely on it for self defense though, mainly because of the small handle.
 
What do you mean by "EDC Tactical Folder"?

By "tactical" do you mean "one handed open"? Do you mean "self defense"? Is SD something you do every day?

Maybe if you clarify what youy expect to be doing with this knife we can help you out. :thumbup:
 
The quillions on the Ti-Lite can act like the Wave on the Emersons. I have the 4" and the 6" Ti-Lites and they are fun to play with. Depending on your EDC use, not a bad knife, it does take a decent edge.

I like all the Ken Onion knives but I never handled the stud lock myself. Seems a bit too overdone, I don't know how durable the mechanism would be.

I like Kershaw and Emerson although I haven't handled the collaborations yet. That 6K might be just what you're looking for.
 
I don't think this thread title could get any more gag inducing cliche laden verbiage...

Anyway, I have the 6k, it's a nice solid knife. I wish it was about 20% larger but isn't small by any means either. On the frame lock side of mine I applied several pieces of skateboard tape to give equal traction on both sides, the stainless steel is quite slick. The 6k and 7k are identical except for the different blade shapes, clip point for the 6k and tanto on the 7k. Another option is the 8k, 3.5" tanto. It is G10 on both sides, uses a liner lock (like real Emersons do) and is chisel ground.
 
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John_0917 said:
I don't think this thread title could get any more gag inducing cliche laden verbiage...
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Fair enough, I think the same of your first line. At least marcinek asked for more information, you just went straight for the insult.

Why gag? Just leave.
 
Thanks all.
(Sorry Esav Benyamin, forgot about that link rule, and thanks.)

@marcinek and @John_0917: I thought I made that distinction within my description.
"The purpose will be primarily EDC with the use as an emergency self-defense knife."
I couldn't think of another title, so I used the generic with specifics in the details as I was supposed to.

@Esay Benyamin: How does the Ti-Lite (4") perform as an EDC? Some reviews say its not as practical as other knives, could you please relate your experiences? As well, have you ever had problems with the quillions? And what is the overall quality like? Thanks again.

@John_0917: I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say that you wish it would be 20" larger. As for the 8k, I'm afraid I'm not particularly fond of Tantos. I can't strop them in one smooth motion. :)

Thanks all.
 
Then I'd forget about the SD aspect. 9999999 of 10000000 times you will use for edc stuff. On the incredibly rare chance you use it for SD, anything will work as good as anything else. A Delica will work just as well as a Spec Ops Black Death Stabiinator for sticking people, and will work a million times better for EDC.
 
marcinek said:
What do you mean by "EDC Tactical Folder"?

By "tactical" do you mean "one handed open"? Do you mean "self defense"? Is SD something you do every day?

Maybe if you clarify what youy expect to be doing with this knife we can help you out. :thumbup:
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I thought it was pretty obvious they were looking for a self defense knife they could carry every day...
 
Kitten Party said:
I thought it was pretty obvious they were looking for a self defense knife they could carry every day...
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I thought he wanted a primarily utility edc that he could use for self defense. I guess that why clarification was questioned.
 
You should concealed carry a pistol. Keep the knife solely for utility use. The attitude that you will meet violent force with a folding knife is not a good one to have. In addition, out of the many self-defence scenarios involving you drawing your knife and attacking your opponent, almost none of them will turn out well for you.

1. A gun is pulled, you draw your knife. In the event you are shot, with no witnesses, the shooter was justified because you displayed/used lethal force. If he has a gun and you have a knife, you will lose, making that irrelevant anyway.

2. A knife is pulled, you pull your knife. At the very least you will be severely injured and spend time in a hospital. Most likely you will have tendon and nerve damage, in which case you can say goodbye to employment and your savings account. Expect a lawsuit from the person you defended against, or if the person died, his or her family. Worst case scenario, you bleed to death.

3. A person attacks you with fists and feet, you pull your knife. Game over, you've just used unwarranted lethal force. If you injure him severely, that's an attempted murder charge. If he dies, a murder charge. Your life is finished.
 
asdf12345 said:
You should concealed carry a pistol. Keep the knife solely for utility use. The attitude that you will meet violent force with a folding knife is not a good one to have. In addition, out of the many self-defence scenarios involving you drawing your knife and attacking your opponent, almost none of them will turn out well for you.

1. A gun is pulled, you draw your knife. In the event you are shot, with no witnesses, the shooter was justified because you displayed/used lethal force. If he has a gun and you have a knife, you will lose, making that irrelevant anyway.

2. A knife is pulled, you pull your knife. At the very least you will be severely injured and spend time in a hospital. Most likely you will have tendon and nerve damage, in which case you can say goodbye to employment and your savings account. Expect a lawsuit from the person you defended against, or if the person died, his or her family. Worst case scenario, you bleed to death.

3. A person attacks you with fists and feet, you pull your knife. Game over, you've just used unwarranted lethal force. If you injure him severely, that's an attempted murder charge. If he dies, a murder charge. Your life is finished.
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It could be noted that most people who carry a gun or knife for self defense, do so with the full understanding that they aren't going to care about the legal repercussions when their life is threatened. "Oh man, I'd defend myself, but I might get sued and my life will be finished! Probably best to just let this guy kill me so my employment and savings account aren't threatened by legal action taken by this guy's family!"


Right?
 
I don't carry the Ti-Lite. It is a solid knife, though. I just have others I prefer that work better at most EDC tasks, like a Spyderco Military or UKPK.
 
asdf12345 said:
You should concealed carry a pistol. Keep the knife solely for utility use. The attitude that you will meet violent force with a folding knife is not a good one to have. In addition, out of the many self-defence scenarios involving you drawing your knife and attacking your opponent, almost none of them will turn out well for you.

1. A gun is pulled, you draw your knife. In the event you are shot, with no witnesses, the shooter was justified because you displayed/used lethal force. If he has a gun and you have a knife, you will lose, making that irrelevant anyway.

2. A knife is pulled, you pull your knife. At the very least you will be severely injured and spend time in a hospital. Most likely you will have tendon and nerve damage, in which case you can say goodbye to employment and your savings account. Expect a lawsuit from the person you defended against, or if the person died, his or her family. Worst case scenario, you bleed to death.

3. A person attacks you with fists and feet, you pull your knife. Game over, you've just used unwarranted lethal force. If you injure him severely, that's an attempted murder charge. If he dies, a murder charge. Your life is finished.
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Way too much liability in carrying a gun, especially if you have a carry license. I carry folders but not with tactical intent.

In any of those three circumstances I would run if I felt about to be overpowered, not pull my knife.

I have no intent of being in a knife fight. I'd rather be in a gunfight. No intent there either. I also think most of the "knife fighters" out there are in Dreamland.

IF, HOWEVER, I were ever taken down or cornered into a life endangering situation I would be GLAD I had a knife. The worst thing that could happen would be for me to WISH I had a knife.
 
Out of those three, I'd go with the Bump. I've got a couple and use them often, the blade shape seems weird at first glance but is actually very practical, the handle is comfortable and the lock works well. My only complaints are the pocket clip (it's huge! I like low profile clips) and the safety (I'm not fond of safeties on anything, I just glued it in the "off" position).
 
Datawraith said:
Thanks all.
(Sorry Esav Benyamin, forgot about that link rule, and thanks.)


@John_0917: I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say that you wish it would be 20" larger. As for the 8k, I'm afraid I'm not particularly fond of Tantos. I can't strop them in one smooth motion. :)

Thanks all.
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Thats 20% I mean, not 20"...that would require some serious pockets!
 
Kitten Party said:
I thought it was pretty obvious they were looking for a self defense knife they could carry every day...
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Like one that would not be used until one is in a self defense situation? That is what you are saying.

And not what the OP was saying.
 
@users who were talking about concealed carry (handgun): I live in Canada; hell of a lot harder to get a permit up here folks! :) (almost impossible to get an ATC)
@John_0917: lol, yup. Thought you couldn't have meant 20". Ok, thanks for the clarification.
@Franciscomv: I like the look of the Bump a lot as well, but the new ones are made in China with a crappier steel then Kershaw used to make them. I'm just worried about the quality of them (and the only place with them in Canada is Amazon... I like feeling the knife first before buying.)

Can anybody comment on the EDC use of the 4" Ti-Lite? How practical is it?

Thanks again.
 
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