Good ole days?

You can always turn off the electrical distribution panel in your house for a week or two and long for those long lost days in July.
 
Based on social attitudes comparing "the good old days" and today, I would choose the former.

However, as a knife lover, I prefer the choice of today along with the fact that if I want I can get one of the vintage knives and typically for a great bargain!

Interesting question though - thanks!

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mqqn
 
Bufford said:
Most definitely would rather be living 100 years ago when the lands here were unspoiled and the world was big and wide and not all structured and narrow as it has become in modern times. The carbon steels of the day fit the bill for good working knives and weapons.
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People on this board know how and where to get the good knives. (not the Gerber) IMO they are not the norm.

We have gained a lot and we have lost a lot. Now that my kids aren't little anymore I yard sale pretty much just to look for older tools. My son is 35 and he is the same way.

It's not to say that the instant communication information age won't have exciting results. We are no different than cavemen in our (brain's) hardware. The software is what has advanced civilization... the sum of our knowledge. Instant access to information and communication to rival the Borg is gonna do something pretty awesome. 'Course it'll make it easier for the same old shysters to pull the wool over our eyes as well.
 
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csisland said:
I just want to live in a 50's America.
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And the early 60's. No building codes or zoning laws on your land, property taxes were low. Lots of good old carbon tools around where you could build a house or cabin, sit on the porch you built and hear freedom ring as the claw hammers ring as the guy next door was free to build what he could afford to how's his family the best he could and was free to do so.

What background check? We bought firearms and ammo at the same place we bought a box of nails. Keys to the car/truck kept on the sunvisor. Doors locks, didn't need them or use them.

Set the way back machine, I'm going back home.

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EDCanAdamas said:
Would you rather live one hundred years ago and carry the knives of that era, or live today and use what we have?

This question seems simple, but consider the fact that one hundred years ago people didn't consider knives to be "weapons" unless they were used in such a manner. Back then it seems like all men carried knives (I don't know about the women), and even the younger kids had their pocket knives for whittling sticks and doing farm chores.

Today we have the most advanced knives ever developed, but many of us are legally or socially limited to carrying folders when a hundred years ago a fixed blade would not have turned any heads.

Personally I like the superior equipment and can handle the non-knife people, so I would choose now over then. However, I do think that our interest would have been more welcomed in 1914 than it is now.

What do you think, would you rather go back to the so called "good ole days" of knife carry?
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Life was pretty hard and unpleasant back then, almost everyone was poor and struggled to live, and had no real prospect of improving themselves.

On the other hand there was no global surveillance back then, and a person could "fall off the grid" pretty easily, and with a bit of luck and application could carve out a better life for him/her self almost anywhere in the world with very few questions being asked.

A tough choice to make.
 
555 said:
And the early 60's. No building codes or zoning laws on your land, property taxes were low. Lots of good old carbon tools around where you could build a house or cabin, sit on the porch you built and hear freedom ring as the claw hammers ring as the guy next door was free to build what he could afford to how's his family the best he could and was free to do so.

What background check? We bought firearms and ammo at the same place we bought a box of nails. Keys to the car/truck kept on the sunvisor. Doors locks, didn't need them or use them.

Set the way back machine, I'm going back home.
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Those were the days !

Now that's two times this week I've got to use that one in reply to one of your post:p:D
 
Sorry, but I'll take air conditioning and indoor plumbing over less restrictive knife laws any day of the week.
 
The "good ole days" included:
-high mortality (all the sicknesses that noone dies from anymore, yeah they'd kill ya back in the day). Remember how your grandmother had 11 siblings, but you only had 3 great aunts ?
-toilet located somewhere in the backyard (fun in winter AND summer)
-no ordering anything, whatever the local shop charged is what you had to pay, if they had it at all
-pollution from early industrialism, have fun drinking the water from the river when theres a dye manufacturer upstream
-no hot water from tap, yay ice cold shower in the morning. Oh yeah, bathing once a week or so
-horse carts in the streets ->horse crap in the streets
-ever see how joe worker lived in the 1900's ? That 2-room appartment I live in would house an entire family of >6 people.
-supermarkets that stock fresh fruit and vegetables round the year, eleven bazillion kinds of noodles, flour, bread and whatnot, open 14hrs a day ? NOPE
-affordable food, meat twice a day ? More like once a week, if that.
-health insurance, social security, unemployment insurance ? Not anywhere near todays levels. Back then, you don't work, you don't get paid. Machine cuts your fingers off ? Your problem. You get sick and have no money for the doctor ? Your problem.


I can tell you that 99,9% of the people who lived in 1914 would take the 2014 way of life any day of the week. So do I. Even if I would like to carry a 6-inch knife around all day and not be arrested by a SWAT unit. (Or SEK in my case)
 
Unfortunately, the "good old days" as we call them, never existed. Nostalgic hindsight is a vague rationalization based on incomplete memories of relatives and elders who can't help but yearn for lost youth, combined with "history" which is almost always biased with propaganda. Every generation does it as they get older. It would be great if we could have the simpler kinder early 20th Century world as depicted in--say maybe the movie "The Music Man" and avoid the diseases, lack of medical knowledge, unregulated banking (think we've got that now? look what they got away with in the past!), "company stores" complete with their own currency, blatant political corruption combined with "yellow journalism"; the list can go on forever, but the good and the bad were all there together. Mechanical craftsmanship was still a combination of tooling and skilled hands; some of the best firearms in history come from that time period, but, as always, a few duds also. Knives were more prevalent, but even the best back then pales in comparison to what's available now. In that time, Cocaine and Laudinum were legal, and thousands were trapped in addictions easily as bad or worse than today's. Alcohol and drugs had no quality regulations, so poisoning was a real threat. And, of course, in 1914, Prohibition is only a few years away. I'm as guilty of romanticizing the past as anyone else, but as earlier posters put it, I'll take indoor plumbing and air-conditioning as I fondle the fine craftsmanship and machining, excellent alloys, polymers, and stabilized natural materials in my knives.
 
I'm looking forward. I'm still waiting on cybernetics. I'm ready for new eyes and ears. Little to much shooting while hunting without hearing protection.
 
C_Becker said:
The "good ole days" included:
-high mortality (all the sicknesses that noone dies from anymore, yeah they'd kill ya back in the day). Remember how your grandmother had 11 siblings, but you only had 3 great aunts ?
-toilet located somewhere in the backyard (fun in winter AND summer)
-no ordering anything, whatever the local shop charged is what you had to pay, if they had it at all
-pollution from early industrialism, have fun drinking the water from the river when theres a dye manufacturer upstream
-no hot water from tap, yay ice cold shower in the morning. Oh yeah, bathing once a week or so
-horse carts in the streets ->horse crap in the streets
-ever see how joe worker lived in the 1900's ? That 2-room appartment I live in would house an entire family of >6 people.
-supermarkets that stock fresh fruit and vegetables round the year, eleven bazillion kinds of noodles, flour, bread and whatnot, open 14hrs a day ? NOPE
-affordable food, meat twice a day ? More like once a week, if that.
-health insurance, social security, unemployment insurance ? Not anywhere near todays levels. Back then, you don't work, you don't get paid. Machine cuts your fingers off ? Your problem. You get sick and have no money for the doctor ? Your problem.


I can tell you that 99,9% of the people who lived in 1914 would take the 2014 way of life any day of the week. So do I. Even if I would like to carry a 6-inch knife around all day and not be arrested by a SWAT unit. (Or SEK in my case)
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WRGreen said:
Unfortunately, the "good old days" as we call them, never existed. Nostalgic hindsight is a vague rationalization based on incomplete memories of relatives and elders who can't help but yearn for lost youth, combined with "history" which is almost always biased with propaganda. Every generation does it as they get older. It would be great if we could have the simpler kinder early 20th Century world as depicted in--say maybe the movie "The Music Man" and avoid the diseases, lack of medical knowledge, unregulated banking (think we've got that now? look what they got away with in the past!), "company stores" complete with their own currency, blatant political corruption combined with "yellow journalism"; the list can go on forever, but the good and the bad were all there together. Mechanical craftsmanship was still a combination of tooling and skilled hands; some of the best firearms in history come from that time period, but, as always, a few duds also. Knives were more prevalent, but even the best back then pales in comparison to what's available now. In that time, Cocaine and Laudinum were legal, and thousands were trapped in addictions easily as bad or worse than today's. Alcohol and drugs had no quality regulations, so poisoning was a real threat. And, of course, in 1914, Prohibition is only a few years away. I'm as guilty of romanticizing the past as anyone else, but as earlier posters put it, I'll take indoor plumbing and air-conditioning as I fondle the fine craftsmanship and machining, excellent alloys, polymers, and stabilized natural materials in my knives.
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These two gents fleshed out fully the points I was just coming in to make. Thank you guys, quality posts. :thumbup:

Anyone who's wishing for "the good old days" are actually wishing for things they've seen in movies. Also, methinks there won't be many African Americans who'd agree that living back then was better.
 
...makes me wonder how many of us would prefer to jump ahead into whatever the "knife world" is 100 years from now? Surely knife technology will have advanced somehow, but what place will they hold in culture and society?

As to the original question: I'd like to visit 1914; I'm just not sure how long I'd like to stay there.
 
Quiet said:
These two gents fleshed out fully the points I was just coming in to make. Thank you guys, quality posts. :thumbup:

Anyone who's wishing for "the good old days" are actually wishing for things they've seen in movies. Also, methinks there won't be many African Americans who'd agree that living back then was better.
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Not only African Americans, but other groups as well (one of which I belong to).

I knew someone who said he wished he lived in the era of the medieval knights. That is definitely romanticizing things. Way back then, you were considered old at 30. Personal hygiene? Not so much, even for the nobles. The rest were poor serfs.

Even 100 years ago, life expectancies were much shorter than today, and while maybe not as complex, life overall was way harder.

I'm 51, so my memories only go back to the mid-1960s. There was good and not so good. Had some great times in the '70s, and others not so great. I started carrying knives in the '70s. Knives in school? No problem. Most boys I knew had a pocketknife...scout knives, SAKs, Barlows, stockmen, even the Buck 110 and it's knockoffs.

I don't like the increasingly over-controlling laws of today, but if I could go back in a time machine, I would NOT go back. And if given the same opportunity to do so, I seriously doubt many others would, either. And most who would, would almost certainly want to come back within a day or two. It wouldn't make any difference to a traditional bushman or others who live completely apart from modern society, but people forget how much easier things are today.

So in spite of the fact that, among other things, 25 to 50 years ago the popular music was far superior to today's, the past is past and I'll take right now...good, bad, and whatever.

Jim
 
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