Good sharpening system - advice

KME.
Or confidence, a lot of beater knives to trial by error, a good assortment of stones and oils, magic markers, plenty of time and humility.
 
I have an edge pro apex 4, it isn't powered and lets me set specific angles. Wicked edge is very similar but different execution. No matter what you choose you'll have a crisp defined apex at what ever angle you choose.
 
I've used Japanese stones in the past (long past ) to sharpen chisel & hand plane blades
It was easier due to the nature of those edges = straight & not too wide
Can get into some very fine polishing with them

I really would like to keep cost down , the wicked edge seems to be $ 400 plus.
I'll look at the sharpmaker
I just don't want to make a hollow grind into a V. Lol

The WE is really expensive. So is what I use, which I can't recommend. It works for me, but it's not for everyone.

The KME system on the other hand is more affordable and does just as good a job as much more expensive systems. It's generally what I recommend when folks ask.

Wicked Edge did come out with a more affordable option though. I believe they call it the "Go". You can always add stones and strops later so that you're not having to eat the whole cost at once.
 
Dmt aligner kit is a good start imho.

That is so cool! Thank you for sharing that. I had no idea it existed and have been wanting to try a set angle sharpener for a long time now but didn't want the lansky. At the same time I need diamond plates this is perfect!

Guys, recommend water when sharpening with diamond plates or no?
 
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Freehand -- it's not difficult. A set of diamond hones by any reputable maker is all you need, plus a simple clamp-on angle guide.
 
I recently purchased The Work Sharp Guided Sharpening System and found this to be very easy to use.
I'm not one that gets overly excited with new things,but this product really works for me.
 
Slightly different approach, which meets your original ask OP, but takes you in a different direction long-term.

1. Get an inexpensive guided system--I agree with the Sharpmaker suggestion--and start with that. Sharpmaker is always useful even if you move on later, lots of us use the white ceramic rods as finishing stones for example. They also make it REALLY easy and fast to sharpen things like serrated bread knives, and serrated shears, and recurves. Finally, they can be a good maintenance tool for family members who can't/won't learn to sharpen. ETA: forgot to add earlier, if you're going to do modern "super steel" sharpening on your Sharpmaker, you'll need their diamond or cbn add-on rods. Or the Congress Tools Moldmaster silicon carbide 1/2" triangle stones. You need these stones to handle high carbide super steels like S30, S35, M390/20cv, S90/S110, etc.
2. At the same time you are doing (1), ALSO start to learn freehand sharpening. Freehand sharpening, IMHO, is more fun, gives you full control over all the sharpening results, enables you to sharpen your knives anywhere without bringing/relying on bulky gadgets, costs less to get started, and reduces your reliance on gadgets and "lock-in" or dependency on a specific vendor or guided system. It's just satisfying to know that you can grab a blade and a stone, and put a great edge on it without relying on a machine. I would use (1) as a transitional tool to help you get by until you get to full freehand. Ideally you would just start freehand and skip Sharpmaker, but I get the desire to start with a guided system too, that's what I did myself. To learn freehand, I would get a couple different kinds of used knives you don't care about to practice on: a kitchen knife or two, a folder, a beater fixed blade hunting knife size. I'd get a couple of basic sharpening stones to start (you can always add fancy stones, diamond plates, etc., to do more specialized tasks like blade profiling and finishing/polishing later, but don't start by buying a whole bunch of stuff, the key thing is to develop your basic sharpening skills and make sure you like freehanding before you spend a fortune). What stones to start, that give you the widest range of useful sharpening capability? I'd suggest two. A Norton Crystolon combination bench stone (the JB8 model, has coarse/fine sides, costs $23), this is the one you'll use most. And a second stone to give a slightly finer finished edge, two options here: the Norton India fine stone, or the Baryonyx Arctic Fox. Both of these are higher grit than the Crystolon, 360 to 400 grit range, and good all-purpose finishing stones. I think the Arctic Fox is well worth the extra $16 cost over the Norton, so that's what I use. Practice with these 2 stones, and a strop, on your beaters until you can hold a consistent edge and get good edges on a variety of knives. Then you can transition off of using Sharpmaker, add a few more stones to your line-up, and you're in business. Folks here on the forum are a great resource and will walk you thru getting started.
 
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Thanks for all the input. Practical cmhoicevwould be to start slow
Sharpmaker is a good way to maintain blades. Not ready for much else at this point anyway

The KME may be a good xmas gift though. Lol
 
Thanks for all the input. Practical cmhoicevwould be to start slow
Sharpmaker is a good way to maintain blades. Not ready for much else at this point anyway

The KME may be a good xmas gift though. Lol

You ve gotten some good information in this tread. I think this decision is a good way to go.
 
You ve gotten some good information in this tread. I think this decision is a good way to go.

I'd agree...

The information available here is beyond helpful, I've learned a ton with much more to go
The sharpmaker is a great sharpener, the diamond rod's add a lot to the system as well
For me the KME was next, it's a lot of bang for the buck and does an outstanding job
I've pretty much found, once I've done a knife on the KME it can be well maintained
with the Sharpmaker, if profiled with similar bevels / secondary bevels
 
I have and love the Tech Studio K-02. It may be more sharpener than you want or need though. Only you can decide that. The sharpmaker is what I used before I got the k02. I used Idahone ceramic rod sharpeners before too, and still use it some for maintenance. It is a superb rod sharpener, and not expensive either, plus easy to use.
 
For me, it's the KME to set an edge. Then a Sharpmaker and number of strops to maintain the edge.
 
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