Good Survival/BOB pack

DaleW

DaleW

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I've been looking for a good day pack for light loads and carrying just enough gear on day hikes. I cam across a summit pack made by Outdoor Research thas has grea potenial. It is a waterproof design, which I think makes it a natural for survival and BOB use. It's long enough that you could put your lower legs in it for an emergency bivy, with a poncho protecting the rest of you. It might be a long night under a tree that way, but you'll be around for breakfast!

Check it out-- about $50 on the street: http://www.outdoorresearch.com/home/style/36600
 
The Osprey Talon 33 or 44 might suit your needs, and Kelty Redwing. If money is no object, you might consider something from www.kifaru.net ...best stuff around but you pay through the nose for it.
 
kdstrick said:
Check out this one from Maxpedition... it is on sale for $50 bucks.. .close to half price. I have a slightly different model, but all the maxpedition stuff is super high quality.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/mapyfaiiba.html
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I bought one at $54 dollars and I love it. It is almost the perfect size for me. Carries everything I need and like all of Maxpeditions stuff it is top flight construction. Great price. :thumbup:

KR
 
36.9 ounces for a 1400 ci pack? Way too heavy. I could head into the woods for a weekend with a 9 pound base weight-- what would I do with over two pounds of PACK?
 
Have a pack that you don't have to baby- I've seen too many ultralighters who have to duct tape their packs to keep them together. I remember watching an ultralight pack turn into a doily trying to cut through a tight thicket, while my old ALICE pack shrugged it off. The trade off of strength vs weight can be a problem, but I would never skimp on durability for my pack or my clothing. They protect everything else.

Remember, BOB is a little different in mission than a camping pack as well.

Personally, I like something in the 2500ci range for BOB- these days I use a SpecOps THE Pack. With a few smaller pouches hung off that, my BOB runs about 50 pounds- that includes about two gallons of water and a summer weight sleeping bag.
 
ironraven said:
Have a pack that you don't have to baby- I've seen too many ultralighters who have to duct tape their packs to keep them together. I remember watching an ultralight pack turn into a doily trying to cut through a tight thicket, while my old ALICE pack shrugged it off. The trade off of strength vs weight can be a problem, but I would never skimp on durability for my pack or my clothing. They protect everything else.

Remember, BOB is a little different in mission than a camping pack as well.

Personally, I like something in the 2500ci range for BOB- these days I use a SpecOps THE Pack. With a few smaller pouches hung off that, my BOB runs about 50 pounds- that includes about two gallons of water and a summer weight sleeping bag.
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Agreed 100%.

Skam
 
I owned a Falcon from Maxpedition, I traded it in for a Condor form them...I think they make a great product, and its tough...I agree, tough is what I want out of what carries my stuff. G
 
I have a Cabela's Whitetail day pack. Cost about $70 buck, has about 2300 cubic inches. Actually I have twoo; 1 in mossy oak for hunting and 1 in blaze orange for survival kit. check it out on their website.
 
dunno if anyone else uses them but check out vaude packs..

ultra comfy

i have a 35 and 50 litre for different outtings.. although on day trips i usually just grab my maxpedition fatboy.

cheers
 
DaleW said:
36.9 ounces for a 1400 ci pack? Way too heavy. I could head into the woods for a weekend with a 9 pound base weight-- what would I do with over two pounds of PACK?
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Have you ever thought of just using a waist pack, or a large hydration pack. I have a fair sized one from northface that holds around 1.5 pounds of gear (mabye two, but the zippers are really stressed.)

Something else to think about.
 
Fonly said:
Have you ever thought of just using a waist pack, or a large hydration pack. I have a fair sized one from northface that holds around 1.5 pounds of gear (mabye two, but the zippers are really stressed.)

Something else to think about.
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I think a fanny pack is fine for a snack and some odds and ends, but I'm talking about a light pack that can hold a layer of clothing, rain gear and essentials/psk. I can do a summer overnight trip with this pack, which means I have shelter, extra clothing, rain gear, a stove, PSK, first aid kit, two liters of water, a couple days food (which could be stretched a couple more days), right on down to floss and TP--- for a total of 16 pounds. That would allow someone to walk out of an earthquake zone or something like Katrina.
 
DaleW said:
I think a fanny pack is fine for a snack and some odds and ends, but I'm talking about a light pack that can hold a layer of clothing, rain gear and essentials/psk. I can do a summer overnight trip with this pack, which means I have shelter, extra clothing, rain gear, a stove, PSK, first aid kit, two liters of water, a couple days food (which could be stretched a couple more days), right on down to floss and TP--- for a total of 16 pounds. That would allow someone to walk out of an earthquake zone or something like Katrina.
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Well, in that case, I bought a Laptop bag from Targus, its water proof, was $100, and has taken a beating. plus it has lots of little compartments. Funny, my kit weighs 16 pounds :D

I bought mine at futureshop.
It carries a tarp,first aid kit,folding saw,possible axe(add 1 3/4 pounds),folding stove/fuel,various lights,glow sticks,hot drinks,hot pads,extra socks/gloves/shorts(longjohns for winter), pretty much everthing I need, though I wear my psk under my right arm.
 
well... i hope some other people on the forums with experience in vaude packs can post about them

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i own two and they keep on going even though i regularly treat them like dirt.

but i think you should consider them.

http://www.vaude.de/hps/client/vaude/public/hxfront/index.hbs/outdoor/en

thanks mate

cheers
 
The pack you picked out looks liks a dry bag with a suspension system, its probably meant more for a canoe or kayak trip where you will only carry it short distances.


I would go to campmor www.campmor.com they have this pack and others by the same company for good prices, including an 1800 cu pack that is about 30$. If you want something better, I can highly recomend the Kelty Redwing its a few dollard more but well worth the cost.
 
jca21,

Vaude packs are very good value for the money. I have one myself, and it's been 4-5 years old, but it's holding up ubelievable good. No loose buckles, straps or seams, the pack just keeps on tickin'!
Mine is a 25ltr pack, that just enough for a day hike trip.

CZ
 
yes!

finally another member who owns a vaude!

thank you cz75b

proves i aint crazy :P

the ones i have (35L and 50L models) have something called "aeroflex" technology..

essentially creates a comfortable space between the pack and your back..

allows air to pass by in-between and keeps your back cool, also allows the sweat to dry.

PLEASE take a look at one dale, i am sure that you won't be dissapointed... :D

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I've been looking for a good day pack for light loads and carrying just enough gear on day hikes. I cam across a summit pack made by Outdoor Research thas has grea potenial. It is a waterproof design, which I think makes it a natural for survival and BOB use. It's long enough that you could put your lower legs in it for an emergency bivy, with a poncho protecting the rest of you. It might be a long night under a tree that way, but you'll be around for breakfast!
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"It's long enough that you could put your lower legs in it for an emergency bivy, with a poncho protecting the rest of you."

i believe that if you carry something like coghlan's tube tent that you wont be needing to use your backpack as a bivy (as this would require you to remove its contents and possibly loose valuable survival materials).

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or perhaps you could toss in one of these?

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"It might be a long night under a tree that way, but you'll be around for breakfast!"

i hope you do not get into that situation but i believe if you're well prepared you'll be in a situation that you KNOW you'll be around for breakfast :D

I think a fanny pack is fine for a snack and some odds and ends, but I'm talking about a light pack that can hold a layer of clothing, rain gear and essentials/psk. I can do a summer overnight trip with this pack, which means I have shelter, extra clothing, rain gear, a stove, PSK, first aid kit, two liters of water, a couple days food (which could be stretched a couple more days), right on down to floss and TP--- for a total of 16 pounds. That would allow someone to walk out of an earthquake zone or something like Katrina.
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"for a total of 16 pounds", that is quite the challenge you have set out for you dale :)

"I can do a summer overnight trip with this pack, which means I have shelter, extra clothing, rain gear, a stove, PSK, first aid kit, two liters of water, a couple days food (which could be stretched a couple more days), right on down to floss and TP"

with my kit i'm able to build a shelter, it has a rain poncho, a VERY well stocked first aid kit, two 1 quart US canteens, 1 canteen cup, 1 canteen stand, a stove with fuel, toilet paper, fishing kit, compass, signal mirror, torch, candles, knives, etc etc etc... everything fits into it that you described...


by the way did i mention i carry a maxpedition fatboy type-s? :D

cheers.

but ya... check out vaude packs.. if you have a dealer near you go and check them out...
the bags are quickly and easily adjustable and most importantly WORK GREAT.

will post about my fatboy bob later once i get my camera back from my girlfriend.

cheers man,

happy hiking

Edit: btw for longer trips or for trips when i need to pack for two, i usually carry the 35 or 50 litre vaudes, otherwise i'm packing my trusty ol fatboy :P
 
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