Good telescopic steel baton?

I'm assuming the ASP disc lock is going to be the same or at least similar to the Bonowi camlock. If that is the case you will just have all the same issues the camlock has. I would still recommend you go for the friction lock ASP unless it is very different to the Bonowi.
Another point that may or may not be pertinent to you is the fact that the camlock or disc lock batons don't have a steel head. The steel head on the friction lock ASPs gives you the option of breaking windows and smahing things that would damage the tip of the other batons. I have tried to get a steel head for my camlock but with no joy as yet.

I would go for the less expensve friction lock ASP first and if you really find it lacking or just fancy and more spendy baton you can pick up the other one. I have a few in my accidental collection now. :p:thumbup:
 
Very good point, Haze. I think I will get the older one. It would have been a real shocker to have picked up that disc lock and realized that it does not have a steel tip... I think it would have made me angry enough to hit something with it... Maybe even a destruction review. Still, that would be $150 gone and I know ASP would only chuckle if I contacted them about it. Anyway, friction lock means I get all of those nice little attachments for the cap and so forth which is a plus for me... Since no one wants to give up their Winchester/RCB/Wilmoth (Peacekeeper)... Even after they said that they have three... and we had a deal... But I'll leave it at that. Thanks, fellas!
 
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I am required to get a Baton but not sure which one to get. I believe Haze is citing three issues with the Bonowi:

1. Wobbles when deployed.

2. Expensive.

3. Did not close on him once.

I tried an ASP friction lock, and it was not that impressively made and the tip was very well dinged from closing it. I am open to a friction lock for the reasons that Haze mentioned, but would enjoy a nicer tool than the Asp as I enjoy collecting nicer equipment.

The Peacekeeper RCB seems to solve those two ASP problems in that it is lathe-turned and has a hardened tip. It may weight a lot, but I can't find the weight listed. I was trying to figure out how they got the balance to the front, which I agree is a good thing, but not necessarily if they do it by adding a lot of weight to the front rather than removing it from the handle. Anyone have one to weigh?

I was considering the new Asp Talon, but now I am concerned that the wobble would bother me, and so far I cannot find one to try.

Benowi is $210 to $220 with holster. Asp Talon with holster is about $160.

Probably I should borrow one for the training and then buy one after I see the others in the class - though I doubt anyone will have a Benowi. Maybe the instructor will have access to one.
 
Some potentially interesting tips:

[video=youtube;8-96ZOr27is]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-96ZOr27is[/video]
 
I've been an impact weapons instructor for sometime I've handled some pricey batons and the badic ASP.

Yes, the wobble can lead you to believe that a baton is low quality, but if you stick with a reputable brand they all work the same.

If you just want a fancy baton and have the money to burn go for it. If you see the possibility of a lot of use get an ASP or Monadnock. I'd rather spend the extra cash on custom knives or firearms where I think craftsmanship makes a diff.
 
I had a smaller ASP baton I carried on and off for over 20 years. Pros: peace of mind, these things are so solid. If you struck somebody in the head you'd likely kill them. The dings in the steel striker? It's steel man and it's going to ding, this has NO effect on the performance. Cons: HEAVY, is known as a weapon pure and simple. I traded mine off. I had a conversation with a cop friend who told me they are viewed in the same vein as automatic knives, a 4 D cell Mag Lite will do the same damage while being perfectly legal, if not as easy to stick in your coat pocket.
 
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