I posted about two weeks ago about a Sebenza 25 on shopgoodwill.com if you wanna check that post. It just takes consistent monitoring of the site, search the keywords knife, knives or pocket knives and you will see the hundreds of different knives they have to offer. I just happened to look at the right time.
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DocJD
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I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable trusting the lock on this little folder enough to use as described : using forceful pressure on the spine , going against the lock . Hopefully the lock was designed with this application in mind and is strong enough .
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Story goes that Benchmade acquired rights to the lock REKAT used on their folders and it became the Axis-lock.
Not that I'd even like using an Axis-lock equipped folder for reverse grip trapping techniques.
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I'd use the BM plunge lock all day for that though. It's tough as nails.
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I’m not sure how strong the Rekat rolling lock is. Here is a drawing that shows how it works. Looks like the spring pushes that vertical/diagonal bar so it is standinng between the blade tang and the back spacer.
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Looks like it could handle impacts. But might exhibit a little blade play. Interesting.
I’m not sure how strong the Rekat rolling lock is. Here is a drawing that shows how it works. Looks like the spring pushes that vertical/diagonal bar so it is standinng between the blade tang and the back spacer.
I only own some of the 2nd generation with the Rolling Lock.Pioneer II's and Carnivore Cubs...used a cub for years.It's actually an interesting design being that it's not a vertical bolt movement.Literally it's a rolling/rotating bolt.The lock bolt is a semi-circle cut steel bolt that locks into a deep notch formed into the rear base.As you guide open the blade, the blade base pushes the bolt to roll against the spring resistance connected to the release lever(lock lever) and then shifts into the notch when it feels the clearance.It's a 45 degree rotation of the lock bolt.
I'm sure that REKAT's Rolling Lock can fail,there are posts on BF quite a few years ago about it ...but I've yet to see it.I'm sure it's from people expecting the Rolling Lock to be invincible.As a fan of REKAT myself I've never encountered weaknesses about it. I see failure more easily in dual omega spring designs than the Rolling Lock.For example,glass breaker function on a Benchmade knife with an Axis Lock-the transferred shock causes the bolt to 'jump' and fail in use...the Rolling Lock can't do that since it doesn't move actually.When I first handled an Axis Lock I thought it was 'consolidated' from it's feel.Because you're pulling down on the lock bolt and springs itself to unlock the blade.Revolutionary at the time for how well it work as an ambidextrous design.The Rolling Lock just a more mechanical feel and hearty,some may consider it obsolete to the newer designs of today while others may say 'oh yeah far more development was put into REKAT's work.After all aside from noting the mechanical function they made the lock bolt,blade rest bolt,and dual pivot screws from hardened 440C.
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Am I the only one who sees the irony of picking up a serrated edge combat knife at a place called "Goodwill?"
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I think these are coming mail order off Goodwill's auction site? That would explain why I never see anything much locally, I went on their online site and there was still only 3 pages of knives nationwide.
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Excellent explanation, I wish I had gotten into more expensive tactical knives earlier so I could have given the rolling lock a try. Though you give a great description of it so thank you! I have 2 points.
First of all one using the glass breaker on the butt of an axis lock knife should always do so with the blade closed. Their closed hand around the knife should prevent the blade from opening.
Point two is that DocJD wasn’t talking about doubting the strength of the rolling lock in a knife for regular or even “hard” use. He was specifically referring to the use of the rolling lock on the folding warrior and hobbit warrior knives which have the serrations on the inside curve formed by the spine of the knife. In the prescribed fighting system one is to use this serrated inside spine curve to grab at and trap an opponent’s limbs. DocJD is just noting that this will put tremendous negative pressure on the lock.
On any fighting folder the lock’s ability to take hard, heavy and sudden forces to the spine of the blade is paramount. In the Rekat folders based on the warrior it is even more so as using the spine of the knife to pull is perscribed technique.
From what I was told by my local Goodwill anytime a knife of any type comes in they're immediately given to a "security person" and then sent into the states main Goodwill store. The knives are offered on the web site which incorporates I believe all the lower 48 states. I have won auctions from numerous states.
Well I took the pocket hobbit apart, it used 5/64 allen screws for the whole knife too include the pivot screw. I needed cleaning but wasn't that bad but it had tight tolerances. Surprised it had teflon washers and the locking bar has a flat side that must be turned just right or the blade will not open or close. And the lock button on the knife has to be aligned with a curved steel arm to work and the spring tension is a coil spring that honestly looked like it was from a click type ball point pen. Should have taken pictures but after being frustrated lining everything up I was just happy to get it back together.
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Nice find! I've come across some good deals on the shopgoodwill site before, but I can't believe I never thought to look for knives on there.
If I'm remembering right, and it's been over a decade, so I might not be, the REKAT model that gave most people issues was the Sifu. People were spine wacking it, causing damage to the locking system, which would allow the lock to fail. I think the theory was spine wacking the longer blade put more force on the lock than doing the same "test" on a shorter bladed knife. I don't know that the Pocket Hobbits had that problem though.
If I'm remembering right, and it's been over a decade, so I might not be, the REKAT model that gave most people issues was the Sifu. People were spine wacking it, causing damage to the locking system, which would allow the lock to fail. I think the theory was spine wacking the longer blade put more force on the lock than doing the same "test" on a shorter bladed knife. I don't know that the Pocket Hobbits had that problem though.
I agree with that observation.That's pretty much why the normal sized folders liked the Savants,Pioneer,and Carnivore Cub aren't commonly seen on EBay.I notice there's Pocket Hobbits but not quite appealing as an everyday utility knife for the average guy.The Escalator(Bram Frank design) gunting folder is another model which I haven't seen on EBay in years...definitely rarer than the Pocket Hobbit.
Unfortunately hi-tech locks do seem to have limited support capabilities for anything over 3-1/4" in edge.
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GIRLYmann, I appreciate the video. But I'm afraid that guy doesn't have any idea what he's talking about! About half of what he says is wrong, but I'll dispel the three most glaring errors that nobody should walk away repeating:
1) Bob Taylor had nothing to do with Taylor Cutlery. That company was run by a man in Tennessee named Stewart A. Taylor.
2) The Sifu model did NOT have an Axis lock. All REKAT folders possessed the Rolling Lock, the patent for which belonged to the company.
3) Al Mar's Warrior existed long before REKAT made the Hobbit Warrior or the Pocket Hobbit. Spyderco's Warrior and Pygmy Warrior followed after REKAT was gone.
PCL, you got a smoking deal on your knife! Congratulations! REKATs are some of my favorite knives. I wish the company had survived.
-Steve
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I guess the last remaining current production model from this lineage is the Spyderco Pygmy Warrior ? I believe is does have the more gripping type "sawtooth " rather than the more slicing type SpyderEdge as on the disco'd full size Warrior .
I have one similar with a different blade and the lever lock.Latest acquisition from Goodwill. I found many references to the knife and I think they had there own page here, not sure. Also there are lots of photo's of the pocket hobbit and the logo looks to have been changed several times. Any R.E.K.A.T fans on here help me verify. Built like a tank, thick g-10 but not much texture solid lockup and it appears on quick look to use allen screws but not sure yet. On the face side the thumb stud must have come off and was replaced by very small nuts, any guess on size?
Sal Glesser years ago said that the lock was the strongest he had ever seen.
I always thought the handle was micarta.
It's one of my favorite figet knifes. I like the way it smoothly drops shut when its unlocked, and your fingers are safe as it closes.