Got me a shotgun.

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I picked up a remington 870 marine magnum today. SWEEET!!!1

Anyone have experience with the 870? Just lookin' for tips and stuff. Thanks!

Oh, and what does this have to do with khuks?

It does go quite nicely with my 16.5 WWII...
:D :footinmou
 
I've got an early 70's vintage 870 Wingmaster with a 30" barrel and a full choke. I call it the "Goose Hammer." :cool:
 
870's a very nice gun, though I don't own one personally. Have a MOssy 500 Persuader and an old Stevens 520A chopped to 20"(could take another 2" off, but not even taking chance of messing with NFA laws).

Definitely a good choice
 
Nope, mine is a beadblasted and blued 1100 12 ga. 2 3/4" chambered with extended mag, reamed for choke tubes and wearing a synthetic stock. My gunsmith is envious of me, kept saying he was gonna make himself up like it. That's for backup

But what I grab is a Browning A5 20 ga. with plug removed for four in tube and one in chamber. 18&1/2" barrel, and is the lenghth of an M1 carbine. Uses slugs and buck.

Looked at a couple 20 ga, SxS's for around 3 or 4 hundred bucks yesterday. If it can't be done with a 20, I don't want to do it.

Same with rifles,don't like to be beaten on by a 30-06. 7x57, properly loaded can do it. 175 grain round nosed ball was good enough for Karamojo Bell to take hundreds of elephants with.
 
Been using one for years. Always works. Put a Sidesaddle on it, and if you're so inclined, a Giles Sling. And most important, practice. Shoot it a lot.

They also pair up nice with a 20" sirupati.
 
I have a squirt gun. When it hits the fan, I'll fill it with mouthwash and aim for the eyes.
 
Great shotgun. Far as I know, it finally surpassed the Winchester Model 12 to become the most popular sporting shotgun of all time. Unfortunately, Remington Shotguns (except for the old Model 11s) don't come up right for me. It's not too unfortunate, though--I have Winchesters, Ithacas and Brownings to keep me company. :)
 
The 870 is a good reliable shotgun. I have an 870 that's be re-worked by "Scattergun Tech". Main advise I'd give is don't be afraid to work the slide. Nothing will "jam" or cause problems with a pump shotgun faster than working the slide too easy. You won't hurt it by "jacking" the slide back with a some force...that's the way they were designed to work ;) .
And as it's already be said practice. There are some shells on the market that are reduced recoil shells. They make it a lot easier to shoot the weapon for longer periods of time with less "wear" on your shoulder :D .
Happy shooting!
Mike
 
ALLRIGHT GUYS!:)

I have the 870, really like it. My oldest son has the Mossberg 500. We disagree as to the virtues of both.

I have always wanted a Western type revolver SIXGUN. Yeah, I know , I like to think of our past heritage, although the Wester Movies blow things out of proportion.

I recently bought (on impulse) a Beretta/Ulibarri 'Stampede' 4.75 in brrl. .45LC Colt Clone. $418.00 Have a .357 on order. I wanted to get a Ruger, but handling it in the shop, tooooooo big for my hand. Than saw the Stampede, perfect fit!

NOW, I want a Cowboy SxS dble barrel.

What do you old hands think of this one?


For 2003, we have taken the IZH43K and made the cocking hammers into real external hammers. We call this new gun the IZH43KH (Bounty Hunter II). You may ask yourself, why fix a gun that's not broken? Well you, the customer wanted real working hammers on a side by side built by Baikal. We kept the traditional looks = Made traditional shaped real external hammers = Included a whole new auto safety system that blocks the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled = Packaged it in one of the nicest side by sides Baikal ever built.

MODEL: IZH43KH COWBOY

Model Description $389 can be ordered from my Albuquerque Gun Shop
180402 EAA IZH 43 BOUNTY HUNTER II 12 GA SIDE BY SIDE SHOTGUN 20" BBL 2-3/4" CHAMBER TRUE HAMMER GUN WALNUT STOCK CYLINDER & CYLINDER CHOKES
 
Thanks for the advice and comments. I bought two boxes of mild 2 3/4 shells. Some bird hunting load... Here ducky, ducky.. :D :eek:

I'll get the "feel" for it, then get some 00 buck shot and slugs, and shoot water jugs and fruit!

I think I'll load the magazine tube and leave the chamber empty, gun locked.

Is it okay to dry fire (unloaded magazine of course)??? Or do I need some dummy shells or something?

Hehehe, I will put on "The Lion King" and work on bead alignment and stuff. :cool:

Bruise,

All evil ninjas and space aliens wear those tactical goggles now. You'd have to aim for the nostrils with hot sauce or something. :p

Perhaps hollow point spit wads would work? :footinmou
 
get a plastic trap thrower...(red, springy thingy), a box of trap, 4-8 boxes of 7 1/2 trap loads...all from Wal Mart...and go out someplace where it is 1: safe, 2: legal.

Put ONE shell in the chamber, put the shotgun in your left hand, throw the trap with your right hand, drop the rst (red,springy thingy), bring the shotgun up with your left hand, grasp the pistol grip with your right hand and snug the gun to your shoulder, release safety, and track and fire at the trap. REPEAT.

Most folks miss the first few. Be patient. Do not get mad at yourself, or the gun, wind, force of gravity, or broken traps. Take your time...this can be done, and done consistently. Rest often. There is no need to punish your shoulder or yourself.

If you do this, not-all-that-often, you will become a very good INSTINCTIVE shotgun shooter. Don't worry about pointing and aiming, your eyes, brain, arms and fingers will learn what they need to learn.

AND, you and the shotgun will learn about each other, and hitting things the FIRST time you shoot at them.

Be Safe. Then, have fun.
 
Lcs37,
I'll offer up the disclaimer that I'm very picky about guns, but the Baikal isn't one I'd spend money on. For a start, it's not a genuine exposed hammer, as the hammers don't actually hit anything. The hammers cock internal strikers. While I haven't heard of any problems with this, it just rubs me the wrong way. They feel very slapped together to me, and a tad flimsy. I'd search for one of the old Rossi SXS if you want exposed hammer, or the Stoegers if you want concealed hammer. Both of the above are around the same price point, and much more ruggedly built.

New on the market in the same price range is the Liberty Coach Gun by K.B.I. They are made in Spain, and all reviews have been good, though I haven't handled one myself. I was trying to find a picture but I can't. It has exposed (real) hammers, case-hardened furniture, and the wood seems reasonably nice in pictures I've seen.
 
You need to get some of these snap-caps if you are going to dry fire the 870. Choate Machine shop hassome pretty good accessories to if you need any............extended magazine tubes with springs & brackets. (Jon) Tanks' Rifle shop in Nebraska has a bunch of mods & heavy-duty goodies that can be added on. Jon is a good feller. For close range defense, you don't need the heaviest, scariest loads to do the job..........1 1/4 oz. loads of #4 shot can be devastating. Federal & a couple of other companies are loading some buckshot loads that are called "reduced recoil" loads in 00, 0, & #4 buckshot. I've shot a fair amount of these & they pattern good & make the shotgun a whole lot more manageable.
 
Rather than spend money on snap caps for a shotgun, I suggest taking a fired hull, use a long pin/similar to punch out the fired primer(I do this on my relo9ading press, but not everyone has one), then take a pencil eraser(the thin ones for mechanical pencisl work great, but can trim regular ones too) or a dollop of hot glue, and put it in the primer pocket. This will cushion your firing pin but be cheaper than snap cpas. Crimp the mouth down again if you want tro be able to feed these from the magazine, or just leave it open and hand load it from the right hand side if you don't care about it feeding(I crimp them again, pretty easy to do y hand if you're patient).

I would put a vote in for the older Stevens 311/5100 SxS. No external hammers, but very reliable guns. I sold one a few months ago to a friend, who then gave it to his friend. Or something along those lines anwyays. He kept it around for self defense aroundhis house. Had some scum break in a month ago or so. Good guy 1, bad guy 0 and in hospital. That Stevens, at least for me andhim, throws to shoulder perfectly, and I never, in untold rounds of ammo had a problem, from thelightest bird loads to heavy magnums and slugs(And won't even go into effort it took me to find slugs in 16ga. :)
 
Look here pardner, if you're going to go Wild West on us you need you a good vest pocket gun. Check out American Derringer Company in Waco, Texas. Their Model 1 is a pretty good representation of an old west style two shot derringer. It's well built of quality materials, not chrome plated pot metal with steel barrel inserts like the others that I won't mention.

I learned about 'em from some friends who do "Cowboy Action Shooting", got me one, and love the durn thing silly. It's solid as a rock and it's accuracy was a pleasant surprise. Can't cut clover leaves like my old Model 66 Smith, but if I take my time I can print acceptable groups all the way out to 25 meters. It's small enough to fit in your left breast jacket pocket, but you can get 'em chambered all the way up to .44 mag! I wouldn't want to shoot one of those palm sized artillery pieces, mine's a very comfortable shooting .38 loaded with low base wadcutters. My personal "Handgun Holy Grail" is one of the fully engraved models chambered in .45 Long Colt.

Sarge
 
SORRY, Uncle, if we get off the Khukuris a bit. Both have old traditions and history. Despite the western rigs, a khukuri IMHO would still look good instead of a Bowie. :D

I inquired about the Colts. OUT OF MY PRICE RANGE. Spent my money on Khukuris.

Sarge, I have drooled over derringers for YEARS! Have looked at their site, many times.....Maybe one day. I sorta like the .410, harder to miss.

timpani, The new model Bounty Hunter II says REAL external triggers.Although without more than the description, it appears the same basic safety mechanism as the Ruger and Beratta sixguns. Hammer strikes transfer bar , transfer bar strikes cartridge.
I called around Albuquerque, no USED 18" or 20" around of any SS 12 gauge. I have heard about the 'greener' but never hear it mentioned any where at all. Tell me more about good realistic Coach guns. The info provided by the HI Excellent forum far surpasses other forums. BUT we all know that , don't we?

Sarge - I'm not able to join a CAS club taking care of Mom, as I do. Closest that I see is in Silver City NM. I have read quite a few of the sites. One in particular several others. http://www.curtrich.com/cowboyphotos.html


http://www.curtrich.com/gettingstarted1.html

I have a basic cartridge belt and holsters ordered from http://www.sanpedrosaddlery.com/

Don't know if I am much for dressing up and picking out a character name, time will tell.

:)
 
Good shotgun! A little Heavy but great Quality and Great Finish, you'll Be happy with it! "Keep it Clean" All Firearms!
Fizzer
 
I forgot about Stevens!! Great old shotguns, and you're right, they do come up very well. I've got an old 311 16 guage that hasn't killed a bird for a long time...may need to take him out this Fall.

As to sources for shotguns, the best sight I know of is http://www.gunsamerica.com where all you need to do find what you want (listed alphabetically by brand), contact the seller to tell them you want it, and then get a local gun dealer to have it shipped in for you. Check out Rossi, Stoeger, Stevens, J.C. Higgins, Charles Daley...I bet you'll find your soulmate. :) For that matter, type in "Coach Gun" to the search window--I just tried it and got a fair number of results.

W.W. Greener shotguns are there as well, though they definately are painful for your wallet. There were several old doubles (rifles and shotguns) that used Greener style Crossbolts for their lockup, because it was a very rugged and dependable setup. Just having this bolt made a shotgun a "greener" for most people. Kind of like how everybody calls tissue generically "kleenex" even though that's only one brand.

Just to make your soul cry out, take a gander at this:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/upload/976248747-1.jpg
;)
 
Humm... I did dry fired it just once last night. Shouldn't be too damaging...

Does anyone know how those Trak loc ghost ring rear sights attach to the reciever? Is it soldered on or any drilling involved for installation?

Thanks!!
 
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