Got my first CRK Sebenza yesterday. The Emperor's new knife.

USS Worden 352 said:
I'm not trying to be rude here, but, I don't understand what you're trying to say. Maybe you can rephrase your post in an attempt to make it coherent.
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Why don't you learn English? It was pretty easy to read for me:rolleyes:

And just because you put "I'm not trying to be rude here, but...." doesn't make it ok to then say something rude....



But you know, I'm not trying to be rude here or anything.......:D
 
All I want to know is: What does any of the bold, below, have to do with cheap Chinese made garbage? :confused:

cchu518 said:
I call bs USS. The point was some of the posters in this thread started yapping away as if the US isn't the greatest country in the world and that we're not a superpower.

The world is the way it is because of the U.S. And so what if industry is not coming back. The world has globalized and America still has a huge seat at the intellectual table. Our strength is in innovation. I spent a heck of a long time paying my own way through college and grad school and so did my wife. We work our asses off and are compensated properly in return.

I honestly bought a CRK not so much for the knife but as a symbol of respect for an immigrant who came to America, innovated, created an industry, jobs and a high quality product in America where he chooses to livd. It's the same reason why I often choose to buy American knives at least half the time. I'm not going to try and disparage knives from other countries with a blanket statement that they are all crap.
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Krissig12 said:
Why don't you learn English? It was pretty easy to read for me:rolleyes:

And just because you put "I'm not trying to be rude here, but...." doesn't make it ok to then say something rude....



But you know, I'm not trying to be rude here or anything.......:D
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^^^ :D
 
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bhyde said:
Can identify "soft bushing" can't identify correct spindle speed to keep from getting chatter.

Perhaps the engineered failure point in the design escape some; Which would you rather replace...A stop sleeve/bushing...Or a blade...Hrmm..A $5.00 item, or a $135.00 item..Let's see here ;)
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Mr. Bill Hyde spoke!

I have an idea on where you are leading.

Locally, if he is willing for such a mundane piece, machinist will charge $80, just to turn on their machine. Proper material to replace the soft bushing, machining, heat treat and the cost will be astronomical.

Based on the quality of average forum audience's technical knowledge to appreciate these type of dialogue, it might be a discussion better suited in Practical Machinist Forum!

For me, on any folders, peripheral supporting components not withstanding - blade on a pocket knife need to have soul.

Back on subject.

Cost is a measly $410. I bought it to satisfy curiosity. My CRK had reached the end of my exploration, I have found it, in alignment with OP's assessment - objectively, nothing special!

It serves as a pretty paper tiger, with my hands, dressed it in altered vibrant, flame oxide coated titanium and a mirror blade for me to enjoy non the less!

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To a lesser degree, probably due to lack of capability, in the dedicated CRK forum, members posting how their's look, in various factory supplied turn key guise!

Its all about what you like!

You don't like what I like, so what!

Have some Aloha in your hearts fellas!
 
Why does every thread regarding the Sebenza turn into a giant pissing match that's so off-topic it dosent even make sense anymore? It's almost as bad as the ZT LE threads:rolleyes:
 
I "speak" for alot of different reasons.. I often save anything I have to say as in most cases, it's an exercise in futility.

The prices I gave are from CRK to replace at least the blade, the stop sleeve bushing wouldn't be far off that mark I posted. It has nothing to do with a local machinist or the technical expertise of average users of this forum. It does however, to do with how and why CRK will design the way they do. I'm only correcting what you are typing out as the absolute truth given our respective trades due to the larger audience understanding of some of the materials and design theory.

If you don't like comments that are opposite of your own opinion, then perhaps you should refrain from making these types of comments which tend to come off as an invitation for crititcism;

Yojimbo 2, aside at half the price, with its terrific design + excellent S90V blade - is without a doubt, a better knife. One that I don't have to baby, enjoy full speed middle finger flick deployments - day in/day out. Unlike the CRK's soft stop pin bushing, repetitive openings will dent the bushing, eventually affect the lock bar position - which prompted me for an improved bushing, made out of 17-4PH and heat treat for longevity:"


ALOHA!
 
Blues Bender said:
Why does every thread regarding the Sebenza turn into a giant pissing match that's so off-topic it dosent even make sense anymore? It's almost as bad as the ZT LE threads:rolleyes:
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I will correct this to add that it isn't only Sebenzas, but any well regarded knife.
 
victorf said:
The soft blade steel, mirror finish took me only 8 hours while the Yojimbo 2's S90V took me a total of close to 40 hours to get the passable mirror.
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It's widely known that S35VN is easier to polish than S30V and that S90V is extremely labor intensive to mirror polish, so what's SAWFT got to do with it?

Bada boom, realist guys in the room. (if anyone gets that, big thumbs up from me ;))
 
Blues Bender said:
Why does every thread regarding the Sebenza turn into a giant pissing match that's so off-topic it dosent even make sense anymore? It's almost as bad as the ZT LE threads:rolleyes:
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HAHA I just came from one of those :D
...that I might have started...*cough*
You're depressingly right in this though. I wish there could be more functional dialogue in these threads, but they usually loose all of that at some point, and then just refuse to die until a mod has to come in and shut them down. Depressing, but I've seen way too much of it in the short time I've been here alone.
 
victorf said:
First off, I agree with OP.

I do know what is a Okuma, the foundation needed for one and the combined price for tooling were almost the price of my home here in Hawaii - price based on the early '90's. In my past life, as a DOD civilian ToolMaker, I programmed, ran the Okuma, as well as other conventional/CNC machines, manufactured whatever was necessary to "Keep Ships Fit To Fight" at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard.

Secondly, I don't buy knife to invest in, nor concern with warranty, simply my toys to play and if areas I can improve upon, to make it my own, well...:

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Out of the two pictured, Yojimbo 2, aside at half the price, with its terrific design + excellent S90V blade - is without a doubt, a better knife. One that I don't have to baby, enjoy full speed middle finger flick deployments - day in/day out. Unlike the CRK's soft stop pin bushing, repetitive openings will dent the bushing, eventually affect the lock bar position - which prompted me for an improved bushing, made out of 17-4PH and heat treat for longevity:

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CRK does offer the plain Jane titanium handle slab to express my artistic expressions. The soft blade steel, mirror finish took me only 8 hours while the Yojimbo 2's S90V took me a total of close to 40 hours to get the passable mirror.

Other than the factory soft S35 blade which I can not control, CRK is noththing more than a project knife to dress up. One CRK is more than enough for me!

Out of the two, Yojimbo 2 out shines in all aspects for me and did I mentioned it defines - smoothness!?

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Another project's beginning stage, lot more work needed to improve and certainly, will transformed:

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My standard and expectation are unusual, therefore, I don't go for customs from homegrown/self taught "knifemaker" types.

This already is in the mail from Japan and I don't anticipate any improvement needed from me:

http://rockstead.jp/collection/detail.html?id=111&category=knife

We all have opinions, capabilities and certainly - YMMV.
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VictorF, Just curious because I share your interest..

what is your favorite out of the box folder?
 
bhyde said:
I "speak" for alot of different reasons.. I often save anything I have to say as in most cases, it's an exercise in futility.
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I'm starting to feel the same way in most of these threads, and I haven't been at this nearly as long as you have...
 
Gosh. Really sebenza is not the Grail I am after? Shit. Back to the drawing board. Anyone have any better ideas. Don't want to waste my money.
 
Psychology there is no such thing as a grail. Grass is greener applies to everything.
No matter what one has there will always be want.
 
My coworker gets more wows with his kershaw leek than I get with my small sebenza .:confused: . Peolpe just don't get it I tell them ITS A SEBENZA . To be honest it doesn't matter to me I like the sebenza and I enjoy it for what it is . That said I like regular production knives over sebenza .
 
colubrid said:
VictorF, Just curious because I share your interest..

what is your favorite out of the box folder?
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Yojimbo 2.

After, I felt the need to elevate it to another level, added the simple spine mod. It became lighter and less dramatic, sort of abruptness during open/close cycles. Mirror polishing is just adding personal pride of ownership.

Simply a great concept by Mr. Janich!
 
bhyde said:
I "speak" for alot of different reasons.. I often save anything I have to say as in most cases, it's an exercise in futility.

The prices I gave are from CRK to replace at least the blade, the stop sleeve bushing wouldn't be far off that mark I posted. It has nothing to do with a local machinist or the technical expertise of average users of this forum. It does however, to do with how and why CRK will design the way they do. I'm only correcting what you are typing out as the absolute truth given our respective trades due to the larger audience understanding of some of the materials and design theory.

If you don't like comments that are opposite of your own opinion, then perhaps you should refrain from making these types of comments which tend to come off as an invitation for crititcism;

Yojimbo 2, aside at half the price, with its terrific design + excellent S90V blade - is without a doubt, a better knife. One that I don't have to baby, enjoy full speed middle finger flick deployments - day in/day out. Unlike the CRK's soft stop pin bushing, repetitive openings will dent the bushing, eventually affect the lock bar position - which prompted me for an improved bushing, made out of 17-4PH and heat treat for longevity:"


ALOHA!
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Points well received!

Thank you Mr. Bill Hyde.
 
A bushing that is softer than the blade makes sense.

A lot of crap is made in China.

A lot of crap is made in the good old US of A.
 
@LeathermanGX said:
Psychology there is no such thing as a grail. Grass is greener applies to everything.
No matter what one has there will always be want.
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Yup. There is a guy out there that is just simply tired of his 25 yo Swedish supermodels prissy antics and PMS sh!t.
 
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