Hey Guys I got my RC-4 with molle back from cumberland knife works!(Great People and good prices) I am thoroughly please with the initial quality of this knife. It feels sturdier than my k bar and weighs almost as much. The knife is thicker than I imagined, I can't picture how thick the RC-5 is. I would like to thank everyone for the help and this forum for leading me to a great American knife company.