Got to be a joke !

softrockrenegade said:
Really? Do you want all B&M stores go out of business due to super cheap Internet prices ?? Wouldbt it be great if all those jobs went away so you can save 20 or 30 dollars on a knife !!!! I honestly don't think your mark up at 120% is accurate! If i had to guess the Internet stores are buying in mass amounts and their profit margin is very small... And that the real stores are selling a few of them at just enough to make a profit ...
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Of course I don't want anyone to go out of business, its hard enough paying city tax as a business owner with a physical location let alone paying the overhead, every situation is different pending location as it affects sales and property/business tax.. I don't think my markup is accurate its only a guess, It's obvious people are buying his stuff otherwise he would be out of business. I support local business when I can naturally, but I'm not gonna go broke to keep someone who inflates their prices sky high in the process. I would never expect a physical business to match that of one on the net, however I want a fair price nonetheless.

And they have just as much buying power if not more then the net mom/pop shop that someones running out of their house (in most cases)..
 
softrockrenegade said:
Really? Do you want all B&M stores go out of business due to super cheap Internet prices ?? Wouldbt it be great if all those jobs went away so you can save 20 or 30 dollars on a knife !!!! I honestly don't think your mark up at 120% is accurate! If i had to guess the Internet stores are buying in mass amounts and their profit margin is very small... And that the real stores are selling a few of them at just enough to make a profit ...
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In most cases, you will see a 20-25% mark up over dealer cost which is about normal, BK2=$70, BK7=$80, BK9=$95, and so on. 20-25 points on a sale is American capitalism at its best, granted its more than I want to pay, but its a fair price for a B&M store. BK2=$105, BK7=$115, BK9=$135 is price gouging at its best. They are WAY over charging and any store that is trying to retire of one sale like that, deserves to go out of business.

Granted if they can sell knives for that much markup and still get sales, more power to them, but don't tell me that Internet shopping is putting B&M stores out of business. Most internet stores that I use, are B&M store, and use thier internest stores as an outlet to boost their floor sales, but the price they sell at, doesn't include tax for out of state sales, and usually shipping is done on a monthly account, so, it is cheaper for the B&M store to sell over the interenet and still make good points on their proffit margin.

I am a consumer, and I like to pay the least amount of money for any product I buy. I price shop, and if my local B&M store has the best price, the have my business. If they don't, they don't get my money. I buy American products when I can, but for a dealer to tell me they have to mark it up like that because the offer a sharpening service and a better warranty than the manufactuer, I have to call BS.

Everyone can spend their money where they want to, I do, but I do not pay anymore than I have to. If you want to blame me for the B&M businesses going out of business, that's ok, but don't blame me for them overpricing their items and creating a BS backstory why they price the way they do.
 
softrockrenegade said:
Lol !!! I really feel for you guys across the pond !!! I know the prices are astronomical !!! But i really don't mind spending a few extra bucks to support the local stores !!
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A few extra bucks is doable, ultimately the less we shop in and around our own communities the more we will pay for groceries , sales tax, and much, much more in taxes both at the city, county, state, federal level you can bet on that..

Uncle Sugar needs all the cash they can get..
 
That's pretty weak - you have to wonder how a store like that stays in business. I guess there's a sucker born every minute.

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Beckerhead #42
 
Believe me, I REALLY contiplated purchasing a Becker knife at this store. I WANT to support my local stores. I won't support this kind of crap though. A few extra dollars is a few extra dollars... but if I can buy a BK-09 for $90 after shipping from the internet or for $160 from the B&M store, that $70 extra dollars in savings could get me another knife like a BK-02. I am as patriotic as the next guy, but not stupid !

Thanks for hearing me out on this guys, just wanted to hear some opinions.

Beckerhead #32
 
I don't know why sharpening is such a big deal... aren't most Beckers safe queens anyways?




JGON
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I don't agree with the BS back story nor the 80 dollar price hike , I was not commenting on the OP's specific store but rather supporting decent B&M stores in general !! I think stores like new graham are at the top of what a knife dealer should be ;)
 
softrockrenegade said:
I don't agree with the BS back story nor the 80 dollar price hike , I was not commenting on the OP's specific store but rather supporting decent B&M stores in general !! I think stores like new graham are at the top of what a knife dealer should be ;)
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I couldn't agree more. I buy from NewGraham. They are my ESEE supplier, and I love the service. Good prices too.

Moose
 
softrockrenegade said:
I think stores like new graham are at the top of what a knife dealer should be ;)
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I was just on the phone with Annie today !! In all honesty with shipping etc, if I had a local B&M here that carried my needs I'd buy from them even above a .net store plus shipping, I get to touch it, feel it and take it home that day !!
 
oh.... and their OKC Rats.... they were at the $150 range as well.... didn't see any ESEE's up for grabs.
 
bush-haus said:
I agree with the "overhead" point of view, but for instance a knife that sells online for $37 (BK-11) was selling for around $70 at this B&M store. The BK-02 ($58 online) was selling for $105. The BK-09 ($70 online) was selling for $150. There is a difference between covering overhead costs, and not even TRYING to give the local patronage any value. Two different employees told me the pricing discrepency was because they will "resharpen the knife for as long as I own it."

Beckerhead #32
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looking at knifecenter it seems like they are asking suggested retail...don't see anything inherently wrong with selling them for what KB suggests they sell them for
 
viva la said:
looking at knifecenter it seems like they are asking suggested retail...don't see anything inherently wrong with selling them for what KB suggests they sell them for
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Just looked at their website. They are reasonably priced. I don't mind a site or B&M facility selling for a bit over what others are offering at. I just have an issue with a company selling for $40-60 OVER what other are selling at. Not a good practice. I was looking at prices near 80% over what I could otherwise purchase for. :grumpy: I will add though that I did not walk away empty handed as I did buy a pocket knife. :thumbup:

Beckerhead #32
 
bush-haus said:
Just looked at their website. They are reasonably priced. I don't mind a site or B&M facility selling for a bit over what others are offering at. I just have an issue with a company selling for $40-60 OVER what other are selling at. Not a good practice. I was looking at prices near 80% over what I could otherwise purchase for. :grumpy: I will add though that I did not walk away empty handed as I did buy a pocket knife. :thumbup:

Beckerhead #32
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what are their prices compared to MSRP?

now, selling at over MSRP is just plain fleecing the gullible... so it goes.
 
Bladite said:
what are their prices compared to MSRP?

now, selling at over MSRP is just plain fleecing the gullible... so it goes.
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That was my point (which he missed in his reply). knifecenter has MSRP prices on their site, thats why I checked there, and that is aprox what they are selling the stuff at.
 
hlee said:
Brick and mortar stores have overhead that online stores do not. You can ALWAYS find a better deal on line. What you cannot do online is talk to a person, examine the item before purchase, or get the instant gratification of walking out of a store with your new item. And, you have an actual address to which you can aim your ire if something goes wrong...
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That's what I was going to say. They do have the over-head to deal with, but they also make a good profit off a lot of people who don't do business on line. If the price isn't to much higher I'll buy there anyway in appreciation for having the opportunity to check an item out, and for the purpose of trying to help support and keep a few brick and mortar stores around. I do not look forward to the day when on-line businesses put most brick and mortar stores out of business....although I would get a serious laugh out of it if Wal-Mart became a victim.
 
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