Gravity & Inertia

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Just about where ever you go, most knife laws are the same. The part of the law that pertains to this forum, has to do with gravity, inertia, in some cases centrifugal force, having an effect of opening a knife. The thing is, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out, that it is none of the above that opens a Balisong Knife. What opens them is manipulation. That is what makes them so hard, and also so fun to open. Gravity, inertia has to be stoped in mid flight, so you can turn or twist the knife. You want enough of this force, to start it on it's way, but not enough to bring it to the end. Because half way though, you need to twist this knife in order to get it open, and ready for business. If you want, you can let them go their full distance, and pick them up on the rebound. By then, the force has been diminished enough to be easier to control. But also, time has been wasted. It's going to take you longer to open a knife this way. Granted, we maybe talking milliseconds, but time is a precious thing to waste.

That perhaps is why, so many court systems do not consider a Balisong to be illegal in anyway. Because gravity or inertia does not open them. Actually, any generic knife, with a thumb stud, is opened more by inertia than a butterfly knife. Because once you get it in motion, it is open, at the end of it's rotation on it's axis. When you flip a butterfly knife, at the end of it's rotation, it is no where near open and ready for business. In fact, the position it's in at that point, it's more of a danger to the owner than anyone else. Even to use gravity to open them, puts the owners feet at risk, more than anyone or thing else. The bottom line is, they are so popular, because it takes skill to open them, and they are difficult to open. That makes it a challenge. If it is possible for gravity or inertia to open a Bali, the radius or turning point is totally independent of the knife, and has to be established or found by the user. Like trying to bank a roller coaster. So, the controlling factor is not the knife, gravity or inertia, but the skill of the operator. The real deciding factor is when you use a double edged blade, then you have to get it right 100% of the time, or you will get cut, every time you do not get it right. Talk about no mercy or grace!

Maybe you can use gravity and the pins of the knife for an axis point, but all the more, the deciding factor is not the knife, but the wrist of the person trying to open the knife. As a brick layer once told me, some people have more motion in their wrist than others. Some people are just not going to be able to open a knife this way. So the deciding factor is not inherent in the knife, but dependent upon the skill and manual dexterity of the person who is trying to open the knife. Thanks, JohnR7 WWW.BalisongKnife.Com
 
A gravity knife is

1. - Any folding knife that opens quickly in a manner that spooks authority figures in that jurisdiction.

2. - Any folding knife that drops when you let go of it.

I showed off my new BM42A to a couple of people yesterday - a "knife person" and a "non-knife person," both of whom are used to seeing me thumb-open a "conventional" one-hand folder, and I "rolled" the 42 open at a gentlepersonly pace with no click-clack. They both thought it looked sinister.



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Several months ago, I had a wonderful opportunity to attend a performance of Cirque Du Soleil. One thing that struck me was how many of the arts they perform originally have their basis in combat and war.

Chinese Poles, wonderful aerial acrobatics performed on vertical poles, originally began with techniques to climb over an opponents walls and do so quickly and quitely. Of course, if you were actually in the heat of battle and trying to get your company over your opponent's wall, you wouldn't stop to perform all of the wonderful extra acrobatics that they did. Soldiers developed these extra flurishes as a way to amuse themselves and their audiences while practicing.

The Russian Swing is just another way to get over a wall or cross a trench or mote. Again, all of the extra artistry was added for non-combative performance.

Boleadoras are a Spanish weapon and as much a martial weapon as the balisong. But, the skillful and artistic manipulation is very colorful and delighted the audience.

Baton manipulation is just stick fighting turned into a performance art.

People don't find these arts frightening. They find them thrilling and delightful. Balisong manipulation is no different. It may have started out as a combative art, but it has turned into a performance art that goes well beyond anything combative. It's pure entertainment.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
DRALION right?? saw that,it was amazing.
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The performance here in Portland was Saltimbanco, but it's the same stuff. Utterly amazing and so entertaining. The audience was absolutely captivated.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
About 30 years ago, I did a few years time in a collage prep boarding school in Conn. We had a dorm father, who had a black patch over his eye. At times, we would see him out on the football field, with a pole vault. It was only natural that we wanted to know what the story was. As it turned out, he was Jewish and had been placed in a Nazi Concentration camp, and that was where he had lost his eye. The way he excaped, and the reason he was still alive at the time, was because he had pole vaulted over the fence in order to find his freedom. As a result he felt a little paranoid, and wanted to keep in shape, just in case he ever found himself in that situation again. It always reminded me of a gym teacher I had, who insisted that we always needed to be in good shape, and be able to climb a rope, because "it could save your life someday". I guess it never hurts to be prepared. Thanks, JohnR7 WWW.BalisongKnife.Com
 
Pole Vaulting, which is another way to get over an obsticle, is just one of many "track and field" events that have their origins in war. High jump and broad jump are contests of ability to get over obsticles too. Shot put, discus, and javelin are obviously weapons. And how about the biathalon?



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
The biathalon . . . substitute the targets for Russians and do it at night and you'll know why the Russians had such a hard time defeating Finland around the time of WWII
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Simon Yu

"I look at it this way. If things get much worse I'll be too dead to care."
 
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