Great Eastern Cutlery Whittler

[Ice Tigre]

Yes indeed it helps! Thank You.

I had not known that the SS didn't sell well...Not surprising I guess, considering it seems that most that use this style knife prefer the traditional carbon steels.. seems as good a reason as any to stop making them.

I can live with that.

G.

 

[knifeswapper]

For those bone lovers....

Mike Latham
CollectorKnives.Net

 

[sunnyd]

Strictly speaking, they are not whittlers. More like 3 spring cattle knives. But beautiful and desirable nonetheless!..

Charlie is correct. Its a Cattle pattern, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I do like it but perhaps someone at GEC got mixed up.

Just out of curiosity does anyone know the length of these in the closed position?

Here is an example of a 3 blade Cattle pattern..

 

[d.parker]

Charlie is correct. Its a Cattle pattern, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I do like it but perhaps someone at GEC got mixed up.

Just out of curiosity does anyone know the length of these in the closed position?

Here is an example of a 3 blade Cattle pattern..

Do you really think they are mixed up at G.E.C.? I don't. I think as long as you have a single main blade out the top bolster or right hand bolster, what ever you want to call it and two smaller blades out the bottom bolster or left hand bolster, no matter how the springs are configured, 3 springs, split back with 2 springs and a wedge, or 2 tapered springs with a bottom catch bit or a split single spring like Y spring to which I have heard about but I have never seen one. You have a whittler pattern, which I believe is a 20th century term for this knife pattern....

 

[Ice Tigre]

IMO its not a cattle knife, since its not the right blade config; Isn't a cattle pattern just an equal end stockman?


No, I'd not call them a whittler in any practical way without a smaller blade available on it. But not a new idea to name this config a whittler-

There have been others made like this, 3 long blades and springs called a whittler. Winchester, Camillus for the Moore Makers line, and Bulldog all did one on the sowbelly frame called a sowbelly whittler. This GEC is the same, just a equal end instead of a sowbelly frame.

IMO they probable get called a whittler from the 2 blades at one end, and one centered at the other like most whittlers are..

I'd call the GEC an equal end 3 bladed moose based on the blade styles/sizes..

G.

 

[Blues]

IMO its not a cattle knife, since its not the right blade config; Isn't a cattle pattern just an equal end stockman?...(snip)...
I'd call the GEC an equal end 3 bladed moose based on the blade styles/sizes..
G.

A cattle pattern is ordinarily an equal end knife though there are some variations (surveyors etc.) and some flexibility on the blades. Some have pens, some have speys, some have punches etc.

There is no such thing as a 3 bladed moose, and technically a moose is not an equal end knife.

The problem with getting loose and fast with terminology and nomenclature is that in the end it renders the term being used meaningless. (In such cases it would be better to just describe the knife in terms of its actual characteristics rather than append a "name" to it.)

 

[sunnyd]

Do you really think they are mixed up at G.E.C.? I don't. I think as long as you have a single main blade out the top bolster or right hand bolster, what ever you want to call it and two smaller blades out the bottom bolster or left hand bolster, no matter how the springs are configured, 3 springs, split back with 2 springs and a wedge, or 2 tapered springs with a bottom catch bit or a split single spring like Y spring to which I have heard about but I have never seen one. You have a whittler pattern, which I believe is a 20th century term for this knife pattern....

DP,

Do I really think that their might have been a mix up at GEC?. Naw, that could never happen, ever. [he says sarcastically] . . They are human beings after all, right?

As for the rest of your post here, if I read it correctly, your basically saying that any knife with three blades, master at the front and two secondary blades at the rear, regardless of any other factor, qualifies as a Whittler. . . C'mon brother, your know I luv ya, but I think not.

A cattle pattern is ordinarily an equal end knife though there are some variations (surveyors etc.) and some flexibility on the blades. Some have pens, some have speys, some have punches etc.

There is no such thing as a 3 bladed moose, and technically a moose is not an equal end knife.

The problem with getting loose and fast with terminology and nomenclature is that in the end it renders the term being used meaningless. (In such cases it would be better to just describe the knife in terms of its actual characteristics rather than append a "name" to it.)

Sound logic, Elliot.

 

[d.parker]

DP,

Do I really think that their might have been a mix up at GEC?. Naw, that could never happen, ever. [he says sarcastically] . . They are human beings after all, right?

As for the rest of your post here, if I read it correctly, your basically saying that any knife with three blades, master at the front and two secondary blades at the rear, regardless of any other factor, qualifies as a Whittler. . . C'mon brother, your know I luv ya, but I think not.



Sound logic, Elliot.

I stand behind my definition of a whittler pattern. I'm not going to get in a pissing contest about the matter. The new Knife pattern G.E.C. has come out with a equal end single main blade out the front and two blades out the bottom is a whittler.... 3 springs be damned...

 

[Ice Tigre]

The problem with getting loose and fast with terminology and nomenclature is that in the end it renders the term being used meaningless.

True. Verry true. Thus my like for threads such as this one, it clarifies the proper(or more approprietly; accepted) naming conventions.

I should skip my questions on the Moose lineage here, delvs too far off topic... but IIRC, a moose is 2 opposing blades in a stockman frame; if there are equal ended stockmen then I see no reason to not have an equal ended Moose...

But then again, the equal ended frame with stockman blade arangment is technically a variation of cattle knife isn't it?

Ah.

OK, I'll shut up now...

G.