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Thanks very very much and I have to apologize for not contributing to the Forum as much as I used to. The "fatigue" part of this nasty condition cut out a lot of the "extra" time I could put on trying to do a bit of teaching and contacts with you great folks.
Ed: Thanks much ... the extra documentation on your hawk sent by letter post to England should reach you soon and will provide some more background on your Warbeast (yeah, I have decided I really like that name). It is still (collector info) the prototype for the "Axe, Hand, Multipurpose" or AHM and if I could ever sell my little shop to younger stronger and richer folks to set up a fullscale factory that would be the military contract name for it.
Will: Belated very much thanks for getting on the forum first and passing on the pictures for posting, and especially for your very perceptive feel for the nature and soul of a particular edged tool ..... "Warbeast" it is and will always be.
Brian: Once again I need to thank you, this time for putting the pictures of the Warbeast on the forum. My digital camera is a piece of crap and makes lousy photos, and I don't have time to process and upload them anyway. When I am operational I try to spend the time at the grinder or at least catching up on e-mails to customers. Fortunately most of them are patient with a tired old man and don't give me too much s*it about being slow.
Again, thanks to all.
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
Ed: Thanks much ... the extra documentation on your hawk sent by letter post to England should reach you soon and will provide some more background on your Warbeast (yeah, I have decided I really like that name). It is still (collector info) the prototype for the "Axe, Hand, Multipurpose" or AHM and if I could ever sell my little shop to younger stronger and richer folks to set up a fullscale factory that would be the military contract name for it.
Will: Belated very much thanks for getting on the forum first and passing on the pictures for posting, and especially for your very perceptive feel for the nature and soul of a particular edged tool ..... "Warbeast" it is and will always be.
Brian: Once again I need to thank you, this time for putting the pictures of the Warbeast on the forum. My digital camera is a piece of crap and makes lousy photos, and I don't have time to process and upload them anyway. When I am operational I try to spend the time at the grinder or at least catching up on e-mails to customers. Fortunately most of them are patient with a tired old man and don't give me too much s*it about being slow.
Again, thanks to all.
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
You're more than welcome, folks. I enjoy sharing pix of quality work & Two Hawks' certainly qualifies. 
Two Hawks, I was saddened to learn of your latest health complications. On a positive note, while MG is certainly not good news, at least now it can be properly treated. All the best to you, my friend!
Two Hawks, I was saddened to learn of your latest health complications. On a positive note, while MG is certainly not good news, at least now it can be properly treated. All the best to you, my friend!
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I was sitting here in Afghanistan when I saw the pictures of the Warhawk and decided that I had to have one. If not for the phychological impact alone of having one in my field gear for myself and the locals. Unfortunately I am on the wait list but I look forward to having one for the next deployment. I wish Two Hawks the best and hope your are feeling better. Keep safe
Jeff in Kandahar.
Jeff in Kandahar.
Brian - I'm learning ways to live with it and actually did more on the grinder the last couple of days than I have in a while.
Jeff - Will put a real priority on the military warhawks as soon as I get done with the current batch of polled-head hawks. There are a number of folks in harm's way who need one. By the way, they work quite well for cutting firewood and splitting kindling (or skinning and butchering a goat that happened to get too close to an M-79 round) as well as the more obvious antipersonnel possibilities.
Meantime, keep your backside very close to the ground and listen to advice from OLD sergeants who have already lived through this kind of sh*t in earlier wars.
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
Jeff - Will put a real priority on the military warhawks as soon as I get done with the current batch of polled-head hawks. There are a number of folks in harm's way who need one. By the way, they work quite well for cutting firewood and splitting kindling (or skinning and butchering a goat that happened to get too close to an M-79 round) as well as the more obvious antipersonnel possibilities.
Meantime, keep your backside very close to the ground and listen to advice from OLD sergeants who have already lived through this kind of sh*t in earlier wars.
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
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Two Hawks,
I'm a hawk newbie and even a greenhorn like me can tell what a quality piece the Warbeast is.
I know I will be placing an order as soon as I can afford one.
I do have one question. Do you plan to come out with a spiked Warbeast? How do you feel in general about the functionality of the spike in combat?
Regards,
Chris
I'm a hawk newbie and even a greenhorn like me can tell what a quality piece the Warbeast is.
I know I will be placing an order as soon as I can afford one.
I do have one question. Do you plan to come out with a spiked Warbeast? How do you feel in general about the functionality of the spike in combat?
Regards,
Chris
Dear Chris,
Will try to answer both questions .... the original engineering design of the master head (and the resulting mold and 6150VSS casting) was set up for multiple goals:
(1) produce materials for a head based on the very successful Warhawk (with "extra" razor sharp fighting edges) for lathe and milling machine work to accept interchangeable threaded accessories installed in the poll including a hammer (standard) and a carbide-tipped spike designed for kevlar penetration in both vests and helmets.
(2) produce materials for several other (smaller) heads that could be ground and machined from that larger 6150VSS casting.
Reference (1) we spent a bit of time on correspondence with retired Special Forces MSG Kim Breed of BLADE Magazine, and he was quite helpful on suggestions for the spike. The project was referred to as the "Recon Hawk." Unfortunately, there seems to be no reasonable source of carbide-tipped drill rod stock to be machined into the spikes.
What was left is a casting that served as the "father" of the more efficient master head for the smaller Longhunter and Woodsman (originally machined and ground from the big casting) and as materials for the Voyageur (actually the oldest design I make, based on my own Hudson Bay style canoe axe which I have used for many years). The "big beast" still has the metal necessary at top and bottom for machining "warhawk" style fighting edges. But it has the weight and authoritative main cutting edge of the Voyageur for serios camp chores.
Reference your question as to the utility of a spike: If all you are going to use your axe for is chopping up and impaling members of the opposing army (like the purpose of the medieval arms from which the spike hawk is descended) it is a damn effective tool.
If you intend to use your hand axe for routine chores, survival requirements, and the normal requirements of an axe the spike actually gets in the way most of the time. My original ("change the tool in the poll") idea for the Recon was an attempt to meet both design requirements. By the way, if anybody suddenly thinks this would be a good idea to steal, I still have a lot of copyrighted drawings (and the correspondence with Kim Breed) and I will sue you into oblivion. I need to secure some future revenue for my heirs.
Or I might just add your scalp to my materials supply, since even an old man needs some amusement now and then.
Hope this information helps.
Best regards,
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
Will try to answer both questions .... the original engineering design of the master head (and the resulting mold and 6150VSS casting) was set up for multiple goals:
(1) produce materials for a head based on the very successful Warhawk (with "extra" razor sharp fighting edges) for lathe and milling machine work to accept interchangeable threaded accessories installed in the poll including a hammer (standard) and a carbide-tipped spike designed for kevlar penetration in both vests and helmets.
(2) produce materials for several other (smaller) heads that could be ground and machined from that larger 6150VSS casting.
Reference (1) we spent a bit of time on correspondence with retired Special Forces MSG Kim Breed of BLADE Magazine, and he was quite helpful on suggestions for the spike. The project was referred to as the "Recon Hawk." Unfortunately, there seems to be no reasonable source of carbide-tipped drill rod stock to be machined into the spikes.
What was left is a casting that served as the "father" of the more efficient master head for the smaller Longhunter and Woodsman (originally machined and ground from the big casting) and as materials for the Voyageur (actually the oldest design I make, based on my own Hudson Bay style canoe axe which I have used for many years). The "big beast" still has the metal necessary at top and bottom for machining "warhawk" style fighting edges. But it has the weight and authoritative main cutting edge of the Voyageur for serios camp chores.
Reference your question as to the utility of a spike: If all you are going to use your axe for is chopping up and impaling members of the opposing army (like the purpose of the medieval arms from which the spike hawk is descended) it is a damn effective tool.
If you intend to use your hand axe for routine chores, survival requirements, and the normal requirements of an axe the spike actually gets in the way most of the time. My original ("change the tool in the poll") idea for the Recon was an attempt to meet both design requirements. By the way, if anybody suddenly thinks this would be a good idea to steal, I still have a lot of copyrighted drawings (and the correspondence with Kim Breed) and I will sue you into oblivion. I need to secure some future revenue for my heirs.
Or I might just add your scalp to my materials supply, since even an old man needs some amusement now and then.
Hope this information helps.
Best regards,
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
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God...I love this guy!!!!
I was reading about "Hawk Quality" hear to get a good idea about what to get for my 8 year old in way of a thrower. When I viewed "2 Hawks" site, what did I find? Bob Thalman! I worked with him in Alaska for many years before he retired a number of years ago. He was just getting started in knife making back then. He is painstaking and a perfectionist. Anything he makes can be considered his "best".
I lost track of him over the years, but now that I've found him again I'll not buy anything that cuts" from other sources.
I lost track of him over the years, but now that I've found him again I'll not buy anything that cuts" from other sources.
To all you guys, again many many thanks. That is what keeps miserable old farts like me going.
Special to DAVEAK .... very good to hear from you again after so many years and thanks a lot for your very valuable advice on the finer points of using somewhat more modern weapons when we worked together.
Shot expert on my last qualification before I finally went "almost completely retired" down here in the South 48 when my body wouldn't keep up any more. If any burglars are watching I can still put one in each eye at any reasonable range in less than 2 seconds though it is a lot easier if I am sitting down now that I am an old fart.
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net
Special to DAVEAK .... very good to hear from you again after so many years and thanks a lot for your very valuable advice on the finer points of using somewhat more modern weapons when we worked together.
Shot expert on my last qualification before I finally went "almost completely retired" down here in the South 48 when my body wouldn't keep up any more. If any burglars are watching I can still put one in each eye at any reasonable range in less than 2 seconds though it is a lot easier if I am sitting down now that I am an old fart.
TWO HAWKS
http://www.2hawks.net