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This posting is not designed to put any one manufacturer's products against any others, but rather only to share my buying experience of one particular brand of knife.

I have been in the process of starting up a personal khukuri knife collection. This initial collecting process has me currently focused on buying knives manufactured by the Khukuri House company of Nepal. I currently own 7 khukuri knives manufactured by this firm. More products made by this firm have passed through my hands, but some of them were simply not up to my visual standards, and were therefore returned or otherwise disposed of. My collection is focused on buying "real" khukuri knives, but even so, my specimens are all slated for display purposes only.

These KH knives that I currently own have come from 4 different KH stateside vendors. One can order directly from KH in Nepal, and the product prices are the lowest by using that method, but then the shipping and handling costs from Nepal will usually add enough to the overall price to make it "more" costly than just buying from a stateside vendor. There is also the problem of the return shipping rates if one has a problem with a knife coming directly from Nepal. For these reasons, I prefer the stateside vendor method for ordering KH produced knives.

I have only kept the KH knives that have met my minimum visual quality standards, but one KH product vendor sticks out as the prime choice for purchasing these KH knives.

I recently ordered a Khukuri House knife from a gentleman named John McCurdy.
I had contacted him with some interest in his KH products, and he replied by telling me that he had read some of my online visual knife reviews. He told me that he was a bit shocked that I had run into some of the issues that I mentioned about the knives from the other KH vendors.
He promised me that these issues were not a problem with the knives that he was importing from Khukuri House of Nepal. The thing is, others had said the same exact thing to me, only for me to feel let down when I received my order(s) from them. This is why I had to dispose or return some of the other KH knives that I had received. John and I had some email discussions, and I left it at him being a possible future vendor for me on KH knives. He in return told me that I would not be disappointed if I did decide to place an order with him. He told me that when he places his orders from KH, he makes it a point to stress the importance of the overall quality of the knives.

I recently decided to order a knife from him, a Khukuri House Nepalese Police model.

This is my experience with this order:

The package was sent out to me via "Priority Mail", and was sent out the very next day after he received my funds.

The packing was carefully done, product arriving perfectly safe.

Inside were the following contents:

*Khukuri House branded Nepalese lokta wrapping paper.

*The khukuri knife, the karda and chakmak accessory knives, and the scabbard.

*A video in VCD format showing the techniques and tools used by the Khukuri House for producing their knives.

*A KH description card for this particular knife.

*A KH company pamphlet, which includes a photo section showing many of their product offerings.

Visually, the knife simply met every single expectation I had been told by John to expect.
The knife had zero rust, no minor freckling, no rust anywhere on it's scabbard rivets or knife blade(s).
This khukuri has no blade or handle fractures.
The leather/wood scabbard was nicely done, and is a perfect fit in size and appearance to the knife itself.
The cho/kaudi area of the knife was very cleanly done and nicely shaped. This kaudi/cho area has been an area where some of the other KH knives had hairline fractures in them, but this one definitely had no fractures whatsoever, and was about as close to perfect as I imagine it can be.

John differenciates his knives by having KH engrave each khukuri with the marking of the bladesmith responsible for the blade's forging. This mark is placed on the right side of the blade. It's very nicely done, and being that it's in Nepalese and all, makes it very appealing looking to me (IMO). Since I don't read Nepalese, for all I know it could read something like "you dumb american fool"! But, whatever it does read, it's not overly done and adds a bit of interest to what normally would be a sterile blade.

Anyhow, this person came through for me with what is now my favorite KH knife specimen.

His contact info:

mccurdy12@juno.com

The free video he sends along with his knives looks as if it had been initially filmed for promotion purposes for the now out of business firm, "Gurkha House". Gurkha House used to be a U.S. company that sold khukuri knives from Nepal, their suppler being the "Khukuri House". Though the video may have been filmed exclusively for the Gurkha House, the message it shares is just as valid as when the Gurkha House was still operating and distributing it. In the video one will see the two founding fathers of the Khukuri House (Lalit and TB), as well as their showcasing the tools and methods used to manufacture the KH knives.


Photo showing the knife and what it came with:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/140/dscn05718te.jpg


Photo showing writing on blade:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1627/dscn05882di.jpg
 
Yeah, I have been trying to parse through the "who supplies who with what and where the heck did it come from in the first place" question concerning Khukuri house. I mean, they have several websites, so it was a little confusing... I ordered a world war version from them and am waiting for it to arrive. As this is my first khukuri of nepalese manufacture, I am looking forward to putting it through the paces and will post my experiences with some photos at some point.

You said you were disappointed with "cosmetic" factors in some of the knives you ordered from them -- hair line fractures don't sound too cosmetic to me! How was the quality of the steel/handle overall, in your opinion? I am highly interested in these knives from the utilitarian perspective.

and thank you for the contact info for john.
 
I'll stick with Himalayan Imports :thumbup:

One supplier no headaches.

Khkuri House was renamed Ghurka House is what it sounds like. Same video different stateside distributor. Same product. If it is the same product, they look really nice, just like H.I. but they definitely don't perform the same, I know for fact, because I severely damaged the edges on two G.H. Khuks doing what my HI AK's do all the time with no edge damage to the HI's. The GH's looked like they had been mildly serrated after I was done chopping a chord of wood with both. My AK's went through two chords of wood with no damage and only mild blunting. All my HI's are from what was called Shop 1, the original maker of Khuks for HI I think, not sure if there is any difference to the later models.

Hopefully the K.H.'s you're getting are better than the GH's.
 
Thank you for the heads up on that, Cobalt.

And if I had my druthers, I would be ordering an Ang Khola from HI, like, yesterday. But KH does NOT look like GH to me... products look quite different, and hopefully, are. You aren't the first person to warn me about the GH khukuris...

BTW, I could be wrong about this, but I think shop 2 for HI is their current production facility, developed after they were able to retain the services of the royal kami... so I think #2 is base for them.
 
brokenhallelujah said:
Thank you for the heads up on that, Cobalt.

And if I had my druthers, I would be ordering an Ang Khola from HI, like, yesterday. But KH does NOT look like GH to me... products look quite different, and hopefully, are. You aren't the first person to warn me about the GH khukuris...

BTW, I could be wrong about this, but I think shop 2 for HI is their current production facility, developed after they were able to retain the services of the royal kami... so I think #2 is base for them.


Yes, shop 2 is the current source. Mine are much older from the original shop. According to other forum members, the difference is that the shop 1's were thicker, that's all. The quality is equal so no worries. My 18" aK's are nearly a half inch thick.
 
The fractures were found in the cho/kaudi areas of some of the KH knives I had received. Two of these came from the authorized Khukuri House vendor on ebay, Khukuri House USA. These I did not keep. I have 7 KH knives now, and none of these have fractures in their blades or handles. My sources now know that I will not be happy with these issues, and no longer send me products without offering very careful inspection first.
Seems like it's best to make sure that your stateside middleman is careful in checking your order before shipping it out to you. John McCurdy may be the best bet for KH products, IMO.

To avoid getting these small fractures, one must make sure to discuss them with your vendor before ordering to make sure that this will not be found on what you order from them. Since I had not owned any other maker's khukuri knives, I thought it was just a KH thing. But, after reporting it on the HI forum, some of the HI guys came in and said that they too had been sent khuks with these small fractures. I'm not saying that it's a common thing with HI or any other khukuri maker, but since it was plainly admitted by some HI owners that it was not something unheard of even with HI, then it's something one should discuss with the vendor ahead of time, (just to make sure you get things the way you want). The HI guys that chimed in about these hairline fractures seemed to not be too concerned about them, but I still don't want them on my khuks just the same ;)

Here is the link to the HI thread discussing this in more detail. It shows awful fractures that I had in two KH Biltong knives that I had ordered and received. They were the worst cases of ugly fractured kaudi/cho areas that I have received to date. I did not keep these knives, acceptable replacements were later sent to me. Two previous knives that I had received from the Khukuri House USA vendor on ebay, had nicely shaped kaudi/cho areas, but also had small hairline fractures that stemmed out of their cho/kaudi areas.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=369002&highlight=cho/kaudi+fractures

It seems that these are most likely caused on some khukuris during the process of pounding the cho/kaudi forming tool into the red hot blade. It may be more common in some makers products then others, but should be looked out for in all khukuris (just in case), no matter who the maker is.
Probably a good idea to discuss these concerns with whatever source you now choose, and maybe later choose. This will make it clear to the vendor that you will not be happy if one of these hairline fractures are present in what they ship to you.

And yes, KH has more than one website (three or more to be more exact). No matter what site of their's you hit, they only claim to be the Khukuri House company, and are not going by different names on different sites, just different net addys. They have that many sites in order to be able to get more internet hits/exposure. Other Nepalese sources, like one of their main Nepalese competitors (the Khukuri Palace), does similar things on the net. Nothing shady or dishonest about it, just trying to fall into your view with no matter what word(s) you write into your search engine ;)

There are other company names like "Nepalese Khukuri House" and "Khukuri Palace", but they are not related to the KH operation. These other Nepalese companies simply popped up after seeing how well the KH business was doing. The KH firm itself has been around now for over 15 years. It was named KH then, and it's still named KH now.

If you decide to buy a KH knife, and if you go through John McCurdy, make sure you request the KH video that I mentioned above in my first post of the thread. It will not only show you kamis working on khukuri blades and such, but will also show you the KH owners, Lalit & TB (two ex-british gurkhas) doing some of their daily business routines. Lalit speaks some english during the video (with a heavy accent), and seems like a fairly nice guy that has a good sense of humor :)

Hope this helps :)
 
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I just received the ww2 model from kh. all in all, I am very pleased. although it does not have the finish or refined aspect of hi. products, it is a very practical and functional knife.

first thing I did was sharpen it -- some say they have received VERY sharp knives straight from the makers, but that was not the case with this one. so, after putting a serviceable edge on it, I went out and cut a few dozen branches or so with pleasing results. I then took it to some heavy oak sections left over from hurricane ivan, on which it did a somewhat less than stellar job, but still acceptable light-axe/machete duty. after all this cutting, the only marks on the blade were the ones left from sharpening, and the edge had not dulled much from the use. after burying the blade thoroughly in a big section of trunk, I applied a great deal of lateral pressure to the handle, maybe fifty lbs or so, and the tang held up fine, with a little flex, but not enough to really make me worry about weakness. I think it probably would have cracked if there had been a structural flaw...

the last thing I did was test for hardness... I don't have a calibrated tool, nor do I have the experience to determine what rc the temper shakes out to, so I just went after a large coffee can with the thing, looking for brittleness in the edge. there was some minor deformation, a little "rippling" in the edge close to the tip (where the steel seems to be much, much softer than along the belly: the belly took a lot of stone work to come up to my standards in the first place), but no chipping, fractures, or serrations. it did leave some scuffing on the blade, but not nearly as much as my sharpening had!

conclusion:this is a great heavy use knife. the craftsmanship is less than perfect visually, but the integrity of the steel and construction seems to be exactly what kh advertises - functionality over form. and in a hand-forged implement, the minor imperfections are very pleasing to me, as looking at and handling the knife reminds me that it was made in a low-tech setting from very crude materials, on the other side of the world.

I don't know that I will be setting this khukuri on a stand on my bookshelf, or putting it on the wall. From what I have seen, HI's products look more the type for the more perfect marriage of form/functionality. but for a 50 usd investment, I have a heck of a field knife that will probably give me years of good service. and it feels substantial in use, which to me makes using it enjoyable.

the scabbard sucks, btw, but who cares? I will definately order again from kh, because of the value, but will probably do so through john...
 
brokenhallelujah said:
I just received the ww2 model from kh. all in all, I am very pleased. although it does not have the finish or refined aspect of hi. products, it is a very practical and functional knife.

first thing I did was sharpen it -- some say they have received VERY sharp knives straight from the makers, but that was not the case with this one. so, after putting a serviceable edge on it, I went out and cut a few dozen branches or so with pleasing results. I then took it to some heavy oak sections left over from hurricane ivan, on which it did a somewhat less than stellar job, but still acceptable light-axe/machete duty. after all this cutting, the only marks on the blade were the ones left from sharpening, and the edge had not dulled much from the use. after burying the blade thoroughly in a big section of trunk, I applied a great deal of lateral pressure to the handle, maybe fifty lbs or so, and the tang held up fine, with a little flex, but not enough to really make me worry about weakness. I think it probably would have cracked if there had been a structural flaw...

the last thing I did was test for hardness... I don't have a calibrated tool, nor do I have the experience to determine what rc the temper shakes out to, so I just went after a large coffee can with the thing, looking for brittleness in the edge. there was some minor deformation, a little "rippling" in the edge close to the tip (where the steel seems to be much, much softer than along the belly: the belly took a lot of stone work to come up to my standards in the first place), but no chipping, fractures, or serrations. it did leave some scuffing on the blade, but not nearly as much as my sharpening had!

conclusion:this is a great heavy use knife. the craftsmanship is less than perfect visually, but the integrity of the steel and construction seems to be exactly what kh advertises - functionality over form. and in a hand-forged implement, the minor imperfections are very pleasing to me, as looking at and handling the knife reminds me that it was made in a low-tech setting from very crude materials, on the other side of the world.

I don't know that I will be setting this khukuri on a stand on my bookshelf, or putting it on the wall. From what I have seen, HI's products look more the type for the more perfect marriage of form/functionality. but for a 50 usd investment, I have a heck of a field knife that will probably give me years of good service. and it feels substantial in use, which to me makes using it enjoyable.

the scabbard sucks, btw, but who cares? I will definately order again from kh, because of the value, but will probably do so through john...


Thanks for sharing your KH experience with us. Good to hear that your experience leans heavily with you being happy with the product.

I kinda had to laugh when you mentioned that you would probably not display your piece on a bookshelf or hang it on a wall. Why did I laugh?...... because I did just that with my KH specimens, and will do similar things with my future khukuri aquisitions (KH and otherwise). The displays will eventually showcase different model khukuris of different manufacturers.

While it may not be something that all will have a craving to do, it works for me ;)

Bookshelf display
http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/6637/dscn05444fe.jpg

Wall display
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5782/dscn05919ui.jpg

The photos don't actually do justice to what these displays really look like in person :)
 
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