I've been trying to trade the knife for a G10 Byrd but haven't had any takers. You offer good advice, but I think I'd rather experiment with trying to get it plain edge than listen to practicality, heheh. Thanks for hearing me out and offering your suggestions though.
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Grinding Off Serrations
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Hold on, don't bash me because somebody personally attacked you. My reply was meant with good intentions.Vivi said:
Regardless, I stand buy it. A serrated knife cuts better and longer in a prolonged work oriented scenario. I know this ofor a fact, and I think it would be handy to keep one around, especially when you have many PE knives.
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No, you're supsoed to be trying to sell it and then buying a brand new g10 Byrd. People in this thread have even offered to buy it.Vivi said:
J85, sorry if I came off a little harsh on you. I know you had good intentions in mind, I just don't enjoy people on the forums I frequent sounding like they know my life better than I. My apologies, I know you didn't intend it in that way.
Raumien@Gmail.com if you'd like to make an offer for the Endura. I'll give it a few days, then I'm trying my experiment.
Gary, if I had enough money for the Byrd, I'd probably go with a new Vic Farmer instead.
Raumien@Gmail.com if you'd like to make an offer for the Endura. I'll give it a few days, then I'm trying my experiment.
Gary, if I had enough money for the Byrd, I'd probably go with a new Vic Farmer instead.
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Part of the reason you don't like it is because you don't want to hassle with sharpening serrations, but you're willing to undertake a major modification on the the knife? Sounds like you've got plenty of time on your hands. I don't want to be too harsh here, but this sounds like a seriously bad idea overall. Since you don't want listen to some good advice offered here, then knock yourself out. Make sure to post pics when you're complete though.
i think ya are making a mistake and will regret doing it, ya are gonna make a good knife a junker probably - it'll mess up the edge geometry to say the least.
i guarantee ya the SE will cut better than a bastardized plain edge.
but its your knife do as ya will matters none to me.
i guarantee ya the SE will cut better than a bastardized plain edge.
but its your knife do as ya will matters none to me.
Slatts said:
It's mostly that serrations in general have never been very useful to me personally. I have a couple serrated beaters that I keep and they never see use, at all. There are a few times here and there I encounter something in which they'd excel, but those times are rare and can usually be handled by a sharp plain edge just fine. Plus, a lot of my SAKs have saws.
I'd just rather have it be plain edge because I like the big, comfy handle for how light and thin the knife is. I'm either going to do that or trade it.
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i would like to see what kind of job you do with grinding off the serrations if you do it please post pics.
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Don't grind the serration off.
Because I did it and it ruin ruins the knife. Once you grind away the serrations you have removed much of the blade and it's now much thicker which means it doesn't cut.
Sooo you keep grinding to think down the shoulders and middle part of the knife so it's not like an axe.
You end up with a blade about .5 inch wide that look reallt stupid in the handle and still doesn't cut as well as it did in the beginning.
Because I did it and it ruin ruins the knife. Once you grind away the serrations you have removed much of the blade and it's now much thicker which means it doesn't cut.
Sooo you keep grinding to think down the shoulders and middle part of the knife so it's not like an axe.
You end up with a blade about .5 inch wide that look reallt stupid in the handle and still doesn't cut as well as it did in the beginning.
Got it on ebay. Really wanted a plain edge but all that the dealer had was the half serrated one with a "Buy It Now" price of $22 or "Best Offer" posted. I offered $15.50 with $2.50 for shipping and they accepted. I was very surprised that no one else bid on this item. I have since re-checked the site multiple times for any new postings but they have no more listings (of anything for that matter) since 7/28. I guess I just lucked out (a rare thing for me).
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DaveH said:
Sound advice, makes sense. Chances are you'll end up with a knife that won't cut worth a crap, looks awful, and is completely worthless to you or anyone else. Plus, you'll have wasted a few hours of your life. But if you do it please do post pics.
Trade fell through. If you check the exchange you'll see I'm trying to trade it for a Byrd knife. If anyone has a Byrd knife they would trade for this user E3, contact me soon, otherwise the operation is going to go ahead as planned (Will post photos etc if that happens).
I have ground off serrations on my CRKT Bearclaw, because the edge angle was too obtuse and the radius of the serrations was too small.
BUT:
- the Bearclaw has much softer AUS-6 steel, so I was able to work it with a file.
- I made it a zero-edge chiselgrind on the side where the serrations were in order to not take off too much steel
- it didn't come out pretty, but is still a great user.
Now hear the advice from s.o. who's been there, done that:
DON'T!
Trust me, the steel combined with its heat treatment will make this project near impossible. ATS-55 is very abrasion resistant and won't be easy to grind, let alone with a concrete block. You will end up with a blade that is horribly scratched, but not ground - and a much smoother concrete block.
If you want results your only option is to have it ground by someone who can to this on a grinding wheel with water-cooling (e.g. a custom-maker) or an XXX-tra coarse diamond-hone (which you should use with water, too), both options being probably more expensive than a new knife.
Don't be impatient with trading the knife, I am sure you'll be able to find someone willing to trade. Or try egay.com - anything but fuxxing up your knife. On the Endura You will ruin both utility and resale value.
Ookami
BUT:
- the Bearclaw has much softer AUS-6 steel, so I was able to work it with a file.
- I made it a zero-edge chiselgrind on the side where the serrations were in order to not take off too much steel
- it didn't come out pretty, but is still a great user.
Now hear the advice from s.o. who's been there, done that:
DON'T!
Trust me, the steel combined with its heat treatment will make this project near impossible. ATS-55 is very abrasion resistant and won't be easy to grind, let alone with a concrete block. You will end up with a blade that is horribly scratched, but not ground - and a much smoother concrete block.
If you want results your only option is to have it ground by someone who can to this on a grinding wheel with water-cooling (e.g. a custom-maker) or an XXX-tra coarse diamond-hone (which you should use with water, too), both options being probably more expensive than a new knife.
Don't be impatient with trading the knife, I am sure you'll be able to find someone willing to trade. Or try egay.com - anything but fuxxing up your knife. On the Endura You will ruin both utility and resale value.
Ookami
Dude, this is more and more painful to read as I go on.
I'm NOT going to judge you DUDE, but c'mon... Your lifestyle isn't in question. The practicality of your project IS!
Think about it. You want a PE knife, but you have a SE one. Well, your SE knife has a value, and any potentially new PE knife would have a value. However, the value you're overlooking is you time and effort!
If you take the value of your current SE knife and let it work for you, you might likely come up even if you find a willing trade. Then you'd have the knife you WANT, and it will retain it's value and likely function above that of any modified knife. AND, not time spent dinking with in an attempt at grinding a new half-arse edge!
If you sold the current knife on ebay and then applied that value to the purchase of a new PE knife, at worst, you might come out with a $10 loss (money wise).
Consider the practicality deciding to "remove the serrations" of your current knife. It will take all of its monitary value away, and likely inhibit it's functional value as well (it won't work as well as a new PE). Also, how practical is it to spend a day working on this knife? (it ain't going to happen fast). That's a day you could spend working extra hours at the local McD's or practicing that sweet grindie off the 2nd story balcony railing! And, working the extra hours at McD's (or wherever), would allow you to buy a new PE knife and keep the old one, if you didn't decide to sell it off. You'd likely have to work less hours at your job, than you'd have to work re-working your SE blade.
Dude, it's a no brainer... stoned or not!
I'm NOT going to judge you DUDE, but c'mon... Your lifestyle isn't in question. The practicality of your project IS!
Think about it. You want a PE knife, but you have a SE one. Well, your SE knife has a value, and any potentially new PE knife would have a value. However, the value you're overlooking is you time and effort!
If you take the value of your current SE knife and let it work for you, you might likely come up even if you find a willing trade. Then you'd have the knife you WANT, and it will retain it's value and likely function above that of any modified knife. AND, not time spent dinking with in an attempt at grinding a new half-arse edge!
If you sold the current knife on ebay and then applied that value to the purchase of a new PE knife, at worst, you might come out with a $10 loss (money wise).
Consider the practicality deciding to "remove the serrations" of your current knife. It will take all of its monitary value away, and likely inhibit it's functional value as well (it won't work as well as a new PE). Also, how practical is it to spend a day working on this knife? (it ain't going to happen fast). That's a day you could spend working extra hours at the local McD's or practicing that sweet grindie off the 2nd story balcony railing! And, working the extra hours at McD's (or wherever), would allow you to buy a new PE knife and keep the old one, if you didn't decide to sell it off. You'd likely have to work less hours at your job, than you'd have to work re-working your SE blade.
Dude, it's a no brainer... stoned or not!
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I for one think you should get on with whatever you want to do. You received all the advice you could ask for telling you not to do it. But you seem to want to go ahead :jerkit: . Fine
You say money is a problem but reading your posts on other threads you have quite a few other knives, in PE. Cash in this one, use your Opinel and you'll have money in your pocket, time on your hands and an excellent blade.
Dude, it's your knife, your time and your life :yawn: .
You can waste all 3 the way you like
You say money is a problem but reading your posts on other threads you have quite a few other knives, in PE. Cash in this one, use your Opinel and you'll have money in your pocket, time on your hands and an excellent blade.
Dude, it's your knife, your time and your life :yawn: .
You can waste all 3 the way you like