griptilian 154cm

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i saw benchmade has them listed on their website now, any idea on when these new ones may be hitting store shelves? ive wanted a grip but i ended up going with the spyderco native because of the higher end steel, well who's to say i dont need 2 edc's
 
yeah, if anyone knows where to pick one up, let us know. does the mini grip get the 154cm too?
 
kegler said:
yeah, if anyone knows where to pick one up, let us know. does the mini grip get the 154cm too?
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Yep. Check out the new steels listed on the Benchmade Website.

The 710 is now in D2 only.
The 940's are in S30V.
There is a Griptilian Fixed blade in 154CM.
There's a G10 handled Bali-song also with a D2 blade.

Pretty darn cool stuff.
 
Hey now...154CM is my favorite steel. Crucible just came up with CPM154CM, so it should be even better.
 
I've seen the grippie fb, and I rather liked it. These are some decent changes in the lineup, and the fact that they didn't actually cancel the 710 is very redeeming.

However, it's time to give the grip/minigrip folders a FACELIFT to match the new steel. The style is dated and wasn't that attractive even when new. It's been long due to get some handle material options.
 
Is 154-CM really that much better than 440-C? For 20 years, I've owned, used, and sharpened custom knives with both steels and can't really tell any difference in edge retention or ease of sharpening. They are both very strong performers. Furthermore, when speaking to custom knifemakers about these two steels, they have all said that there really isn't enough difference to be noticable. :confused:
 
What a great post... that is awesome to hear about the 940 going to S30V steel. I might be picking one of those up now. I've loved that knife from the first moment I picked it up, :-)

Cool...
 
There is definately a perception out there that 154-CM is far superior to 440-C. Could BM be "upgrading" the Grip as a marketing ploy? :eek:
 
I'm not sure if it's that much better than 440C...it's just what I use. Everything I've been able to read says 154CM is tougher and (slightly) more flexible. Wayne Goddard's book says 154CM is a better edge holder when heat-treated properly. Most folks can't tell the difference. I was only saying that 154 is a great steel, but people seem to be poo-pooing it because of the new wonder steel, S30V. Most folks probably can't tell much difference between it and 440C, either, except for price. I like 440C, too. The only knock I've heard on it (and this is theoretical much more that practical) is the 440C has so much Chromium (17-18%) that it weakens the grain boundaries of the steel, making it much more liable to breaking. For 440C to be the great edge holder it can be, though, cryogenic treatment should definitely be part of the ht. Cryogenic treatment seems to affect 440C (improving it) more than any other steel I've read about.
 
Thanks warden. That's interesting info. I recently asked if 440-C was more stain resistant than 154-CM because of its higher Chromium content. Seems the consensus was that it could be.
 
440C is probably the most stain-resistant of the acceptable cutlery steels (for me, acceptable starts at 440C). The percentage of free chromium is what really determines stain resistance. A lot of the chromium in steel is tied up in carbides. With its 17-18%, 440C should have the most free chromium, given its other alloy elements. Stain resistance is like edge-holding, though. Most people (me included) don't work one hard enough to know the difference. Most people don't really test the stain resistance, either. It's interesting to me, though, that most "sailors'" knives are made of 440C. That says a lot.
 
One of the reasons that I decided to buy a 551 Griptilian was the 440-C blade. I was looking around for a new backpacking knife and wanted a blade that would be very resistant to the elements. Seems I have the natural ability of scheduling backpacking weekends only when it's going to rain. :rolleyes:
 
i was glancing at the grip on the benchmade site again, and noticed something... is it just me, or did the price go up signifigantly? $90 for the mini and $100 for the regular grip.

guess that means i'll be looking into a clearanced old griptilian, or just buy something better for my $100
 
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