Griptillian questions

[dan oliver]

I borrowed one for a while today. I have some questions:
1. Should there be any play in the blade/frame after lock-up?
2. Why is the handle so fat when compared to my Sage?
3. It only has a short liner. Are full liners stronger knives...not stronger locks, but just stronger overall?
3. Why wouldn't BM use a full liner?

Thank you for your time.

 

[derrickd803]

1. No, there shouldnt be any play, neither of my grips do but i had to tighten the pivot a little
2. I dont know, maybe to make it more filling in the hand, but thats just a guess, I really like the feel myself
3. Again, i really dont know, I would assume full liners would make a knife a little stronger, less handle flex on some.
4. My guess would be to cut down on the weight of the knife, IMO it really doesnt need a full liner because it is an EDC knife not a heavy heavy use knife (although it can take some abuse!)

 

[Slowpoke]

1. There shouldn't be any play. If there is, check the pivot screw and tighten it a bit. Some people like to flick them open easily and loosen the pivot quite a bit.
2. I'm sure the handle is fatter because it is a different option and consumers don't like all the same kind of handle size.
3. A similar argument could be given for liner thickness as well. An extra 1mm thickness in the liner of a Sebenza would make a stronger knife, but where do you stop. I'm sure it was a strength vs cost vs performance change that made the liner length decision.
3. I'm guessing that it would just add more cost for no noticable performance gain. Has anyone had problems with theirs that a longer liner would fix?

 

[Reeek]

Although I'm not a flicker for the most part my Mini flicks open quite easily plus has zero blade play in any direction. So that balance should be attainable.

 

[Steven Andrews]

1. No.
2. Because the Sage has a thinner handle.
3. Full liners probably make a stronger knife - which may be an advantage if you use your knife for something other than cutting things.
4. Because they aimed for a lightweight package and a decided that a nested liner would make a sufficiently strong knife.

 

[Davyd]

So the corallory question

Is - What is the nearest equivalent to grip/mingrip that is flatter and has the same blade shape, axis lock and full liners?

 

[mongomondo]

Try a BM707

You can also pay bit more for a slimmer and classier knife like the 960, 940, and 943.

 

[Josh K]

I borrowed one for a while today. I have some questions:
1. Should there be any play in the blade/frame after lock-up?
2. Why is the handle so fat when compared to my Sage?
3. It only has a short liner. Are full liners stronger knives...not stronger locks, but just stronger overall?
3. Why wouldn't BM use a full liner?

Thank you for your time.

1. No. Properly designed it shouldn't, and I haven't heard reports of any with the axis lock.
2. Because they need liners and thick handles to support the axis lock.
3. Eh. Yes and no. It depends on your definition of "stronger." My CF military has dual nested liners and I can't flex it at all. Full liners are more often used to reduce machining and fitting problems.
3 (again? ). Not sure, ask them.

 

[dalefuller]

So the corallory question

Is - What is the nearest equivalent to grip/mingrip that is flatter and has the same blade shape, axis lock and full liners?

H&K 14205 comes to mind as being close to the shape of a Ritter Grip, but it'll be a bit heavier, too. BM 707 has a similar blade shape to a standard mini-Grip, but it's a very... I say very... thin knife. The green D2 models are hard to resist, though. They are gorgeous knives.